Michael Vick press conference

[markjs]

Michal Vick's response to the suspension.....

 

[Professur]

My hero.

 

[Gonz]

 

[SouthernN'Proud]

SUSSEX, Va. -- Michael Vick and three co-defendants were indicted by a grand jury Tuesday on state charges related to a dogfighting ring operated on Vick's Virginia property.

Vick, who already pleaded guilty in federal court to a dogfighting conspiracy charge and is awaiting sentencing on Dec. 10, was indicted for beating or killing or causing dogs to fight other dogs and engaging in or promoting dogfighting.



The grand jury passed on indicting the Atlanta Falcons quarterback and two co-defendants on eight counts of animal cruelty, which would have exposed them to as many as 40 years in prison if convicted.



Any animal cruelty charge in Virginia is punishable by up to five years in prison. And in a written plea for the federal case, Vick admitted helping kill six to eight dogs at the Surry County property. Similarly, the three co-defendants in the case have admitted their involvement and detailed what they claim was Vick's role.

So y'all will know I ain't lying

By law, State time must be consecutive to Federal time. So if he gets anything on the Virginia charges, it'll start AFTER he finishes whatever the Federal judge gives him. And with his confessions and plea agreement in Federal court, I'd bet the farm he gets some State time.

All in all, I'm guessing he wishes he'd spent his money on something besides dogfighting.

 

[Gonz]

As disgusting as I find this guy...what's the point of state charges? It's encroaching on double jeopardy territory & his professional life is already finished.

 

[unclehobart]

Wheres the double Jeapordy? The constitution makes the state and fed separate entities.

I think the rub is that they have to build separate cases. If they share too much material it ends up as double jeapordy. I forget the small details. I wonder how the feds got the case before the state was allowed to prosecute? Perhaps the gambling angle and interstate possiblity of mob control of americas pastime made the whole system freak out.

 

[chcr]

As disgusting as I find this guy...what's the point of state charges? It's encroaching on double jeopardy territory & his professional life is already finished.

Face time. Gotta gitcher oar in the water and stir up some more of the chum.

 

[SouthernN'Proud]

I must correct a factual error in my last post. State time and fed time are NOT mandated to be served consecutively. I was under that impression most likely because in the Court I work in it will be...every time. Apologies for the mistake.

As to why...it's your ballyhooed federal government's job to prosecute interstate infractions, Gonz. It's the State's job to prosecute State infractions. The fact that he broke both is his own damn fault. It happens every day. Virginia is only prosecuting certain aspects of the mess, as are the feds. Had VA gone after him on Animal Cruelty charges, up to eight counts as I understand it, then each of those could have resulted in 5 years. Each. They didn't because those deeds are more or less covered in the federal indictment as I understand it.

Now for the real reason they're doing it. A large part of the investigative acts leading up to the fed charges were done (and paid for) by the State of Virginia. Their investigation was commandeered, if we recall, by the feds AFTER the way had been paved for them. This is Virginia's recourse to recoup the costs associated with those investigative activities. He may or may not get additional time to serve, but he'll damn sure get to foot the bill for not only the legal proceedings, where every staple, sheet of copier paper, and rubber stamp has a cost attached to it, but via the fines that will be levied he'll get to reimburse Virginia for the cost of the investigation. That, too, happens every day.

It's the ideal circumstance IMO. The feds take care of their business, and the State takes care of its business. If only...

 

[Gonz]

It's still redundant. He's been punished for this crime. That entity A has a slightly varied version than entity B. One crime, one punishment. The rest is piling on.

 

[chcr]

You have to forgive Gonz, SnP. He's just salivating over the idea that the Raiders will end up with him.

 

[unclehobart]

It's still redundant. He's been punished for this crime. That entity A has a slightly varied version than entity B. One crime, one punishment. The rest is piling on.

It's about little podunk regional DA's trying to get their name in the paper so that they can make an easier play up the ladder in the future. Pad that resume'. After all... its only taxpayer money. Its practically free.

 

[SouthernN'Proud]

It's still redundant. He's been punished for this crime. That entity A has a slightly varied version than entity B. One crime, one punishment. The rest is piling on.

Then I'll look for you to start doing what I do. Change the system in some meaningful way. I've set my course, I'll expect you to follow suit in your own way.

 

[unclehobart]

Complete dumbass... 100%

 

[SouthernN'Proud]

[sarcasm] But it's just a harmless little plant. Nobody should be punished for smoking Mother Nature. Oh the calamity! Oh the outrage! Why can't marijuana smokers just be left alone? They're just like everyone else! [/sarcasm]

Moron. His regard for law and order speaks volumes. At least he could have waited until he got inside the jail before toking up. God knows there's more weed in jail than anywhere else.

 

[chcr]

While I'm all for the legalization of marijuana (all drugs, more or less), could he be a bigger idiot?

 

[Gonz]

You have to forgive Gonz, SnP. He's just salivating over the idea that the Raiders will end up with him.

Leave Lyle alone,. He's dead.

 

[Gato_Solo]

Really???

 

[SouthernN'Proud]

Hi ho, hi ho, it's off to Leavenworth he goes

RICHMOND, Va. -- Michael Vick left Virginia on Monday to enter a drug treatment program at a Kansas prison, a move that could reduce the former NFL star's 23-month sentence on a federal dogfighting conviction.

Michael Vick was transferred to the U.S. Penitentiary in Leavenworth, Kan., on Monday to serve the rest of his 23-month sentence.

The suspended Atlanta Falcons quarterback is now at the U.S. Bureau of Prisons minimum security facility in Leavenworth, his attorney, Billy Martin, said.

"Mr. Vick hopes to participate in programs offered at that facility, including the Bureau of Prisons drug treatment program," Martin said in a statement.

Vick tested positive for marijuana in September while he was on supervised release following his guilty plea. The residential drug treatment programs at Bureau of Prisons institutions take place in units set apart from the general prison population, lasting at least 500 hours over six to 12 months, according to Bureau of Prisons policy.

Upon successful completion of the program, nonviolent offenders may be granted up to one year of early release. Staff members review the inmates' records and behavior to determine if they are eligible for early release.

But...but...but I thought that phony water bottle he got buste...I mean harassed over at that airport was for his earrings??!!

I'm so disillusioned. I need to lie down. Could someone fan me with a palm frond?

 

[Gato_Solo]

But...but...but I thought that phony water bottle he got buste...I mean harassed over at that airport was for his earrings??!!

I'm so disillusioned. I need to lie down. Could someone fan me with a palm frond?

No palm fronds, but I can piss down your back and tell you its raining.

 

[Leslie]

Well hell. If I'm ever going to go to jail, I'll smoke some joints first.