Antiwar Reporting Helps U.S. Enemies

2minkey

bootlicker
Deny all you want: Islamo-fascist religious imperialism must be nipped in the bud.

The "Ds" don't have the 'nads to do it. :shrug:

as opposed to smiling, happy-faced imperialism?

i'm certainly not comfortable with D-style foreign policy. in fact i generally tend to prefer R-style. but not this particular group of Rs that relies on the wisdom of adolescents.

speaking of denial, can you deny that us being in iraq has been a huge recruiting tool for the dick donkeys?

well i sure hope the surge got us into a better place to handle what is currently brewing with that sadr jerk. once again, i'm really glad my tax dollars are being thrown at a herd of cats.
 

jimpeel

Well-Known Member
speaking of denial, can you deny that us being in iraq has been a huge recruiting tool for the dick donkeys?

Oh yeah, they are just joining in droves.

Libya to Join US and UK In 'War on Terror'
The Financial Times of London ^ | Friday March 26, 2003 | Christoper Adams

Libya on Thursday brought to an end decades of international isolation as a pariah state with a promise to join forces with the United States of America and the United Kingdom to fight the global war against terrorism.

It is to provide intelligence to help root out Al Qaeda and on Thursday secured a gas exploration deal with Shell that could be worth billions of dollars.

Tony Blair, UK Prime Minister, held two hours of talks with Col. Muammer Gadaffi in a bedroom tent a few miles outside of Tripoli, the first time a British leader has set foot in the country since 1943.

He emerged afterwords to declare the Libyan leader an important ally and urged other Arab countries to follow Tripoli's example.

The historic talks sealed a dramatic and rapid transformation of Libya's standing in the international community, a process that started in earnest in December when it unexpectedly renounced its pursuit of weapons of mass destuction.

That decision followed more than a year of secret negoiations with Britain and the US.

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/32007.pdf

On December 19, 2003, Libya announced it would dismantle its weapons of mass destruction (WMD) and ballistic missile programs. Since then, U.S., British, and international officials have inspected and removed or destroyed key components of those programs, and Libya has provided valuable information, particularly about foreign suppliers. Libya’s WMD disarmament is a critical step towards reintegration into the world community, and a necessary but probably not sufficient prerequisite for lifting U.S. sanctions. This report will be updated as needed. See also CRS Issue Brief IB 93109, Libya, by Clyde Mark.
 

2minkey

bootlicker
i'm sorry, were you trying to say something, jim?

moammar's been irrelevant for YEARs now.

try again. try hitting the issue head on. you can do it.
 

Cerise

Well-Known Member
as opposed to smiling, happy-faced imperialism?

There is currently only one unified sect that concerns itself with superiority, subordination, domination, or elimination of anyone who doesn't worship their religion. They want a return of the caliphate to unite their believers, and a rule of sharia law.

speaking of denial, can you deny that us being in iraq has been a huge recruiting tool for the dick donkeys?


You mean like "Hey, my brothers. You wanna kill some Americans?" As in if we weren't in Iraq they would leave us alone?? The recruitment has been going on for a long time.

The call to global Islamic radicalism has been revived, emboldened, and directly aided by---no, not our presence in Iraq---by a movement that is a renewal of political Islam that dated back to the days of Muhammad. Look at the Muslim Brotherhood page. Since organization in the late 1920s they began to spread the principal of the radicalized Islamic ideal: That Islam is "Creed and state, book and sword, and a way of life." Among its' goals are building the Muslim state and mastering the world with Islam:

Allah is our objective.
The messenger is our leader.
Quran is our law.
Jihad is our way.
Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope.


In his 1998 fatwa bin Laden declared jihad on the West:

"As for the fighting to repulse [an enemy], it is aimed at defending sanctity and religion, and it is a duty as agreed [by the ulema]. Nothing is more sacred than belief except repulsing an enemy who is attacking religion and life." On that basis, and in compliance with God's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims:

The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty God, "and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together," and "fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God."

We -- with God's help -- call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1998.html


Our presence in Iraq has not been the impetus. Our presence on this planet is.

well i sure hope the surge got us into a better place to handle what is currently brewing with that sadr jerk. once again, i'm really glad my tax dollars are being thrown at a herd of cats.

Mookie knows he's been beaten:

BAGHDAD - Iraq's elusive Shiite cleric Moqtada Sadr has decided to drop out of politics for the time being because his disillusionment with the political scene in Iraq has left him sick and anxious, he said in an unusually personal letter to his followers released Friday. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-iraq-sadr_sly_08mar08,0,7783098.story

Or maybe he's just sick:

Shi'ite cleric and leader Muqtada Al-Sadr was secretly transferred a few days ago from Iraq to Iran for hospitalization as he was comatose.

It was reported that his illness resulted from food poisoning.

Al-Sadr is being treated by Iranian specialists, as well as by Russian doctors brought in to help the Iranian medical staff treat him. http://www.thememriblog.org/blog_personal/en/5884.htm

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Mookie sez

Move along. Nothing to see here.

http://alanpetersnewsbriefs.blogspot.com/2008/03/iraq-becoming-financially-subordinate.html
 

spike

New Member
There is currently only one unified sect that concerns itself with superiority, subordination, domination, or elimination of anyone who doesn't worship their religion.

Which sect?


You mean like "Hey, my brothers. You wanna kill some Americans?" As in if we weren't in Iraq they would leave us alone?? The recruitment has been going on for a long time.

It's just never been so successful until we went into Iraq. We just greatly increased terrorism while we didn't even require IDs to come into the country until a few months ago.

Our presence in Iraq has not been the impetus. Our presence on this planet is.

yeah, THEY HATE OUR FREEDOM! :rofl3:
 

2minkey

bootlicker
There is currently only one unified sect that concerns itself with superiority, subordination, domination, or elimination of anyone who doesn't worship their religion. They want a return of the caliphate to unite their believers, and a rule of sharia law.

spike has a point. which sect? you buddy sadr is shiite. bin ladin and saddam were sunnite. though saddam wasn't really much of a sunnite, far more of a secularist.

saddam sure as shit NEVER wanted "sharia law." (that phrase be redundant, BTW. )

and also BTW none of them agree on what a "caliphate" should, ideally, be. hey, how many imans, you think? seven or twelve? what, no imam? well, achmed, up yours!

You mean like "Hey, my brothers. You wanna kill some Americans?" As in if we weren't in Iraq they would leave us alone?? The recruitment has been going on for a long time.

there's absolute agreement among virtually everyone with expertise in the matter that the iraq invasion has spiked AQ recruiting.

and if it weren't for us being there achmed and abdul would be kicking the shit out of each other.

The call to global Islamic radicalism has been revived, emboldened, and directly aided by---no, not our presence in Iraq---by a movement that is a renewal of political Islam that dated back to the days of Muhammad. Look at the Muslim Brotherhood page. Since organization in the late 1920s they began to spread the principal of the radicalized Islamic ideal: That Islam is "Creed and state, book and sword, and a way of life." Among its' goals are building the Muslim state and mastering the world with Islam:

Allah is our objective.
The messenger is our leader.
Quran is our law.
Jihad is our way.
Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope.

there are blowhards in every corner of the globe. and you do know that the brotherhood is, formally, against violence, right? not to worry, there's plenty of other blowhards to strap bombs to their chests.


Our presence in Iraq has not been the impetus. Our presence on this planet is.

not really. again, in the absence of a common external foe, those fuckers'd whacking each other left and right.

bin laden himself said not too long ago that he'd pretty much call his shit off if we left the middle east. not that he should be taken at his word, or that we don't have business being there and should get out, but it certainly is an unsurprising statement to anyone with a basic knowledge of middle eastern politics and peoples.

of course, bush and co absolutely depend on the absence of that basic knowledge.
 

Cerise

Well-Known Member
spike has a point. which sect?

In keeping with the traditional definition of "deviating from a generally accepted religious tradition"......"Sect = Radical Islam."

......saddam sure as shit....

Saddam is two and a half years dead. It doesn't matter what he wanted. Bend an ear to what radical Islam wants.


....and also BTW....

"Caliph" is a spiritual leader of Islam, something the Radicals lust after.

Imagine drifting around, pining for someone to give you guidance besides a long-gone child molester. You'd want some direction, too.


...there are blowhards in....

Maybe there are. I only care about the ones that want us dead in this corner.


....the brotherhood is, formally, against violence, right?

Since when? Re: Hezzzzbollah.


bin laden himself said not too long ago that he'd pretty much call his shit off if we left the middle east.

Sure he would. Because he's getting his ass kicked.

:shrug:

Appeasement?? You think it would be a good thing if we bowed to what Binney-Boy wants??


.....unsurprising statement to anyone .....

Damn Pelosi & Reid, et al!
 

jimpeel

Well-Known Member
i'm sorry, were you trying to say something, jim?

moammar's been irrelevant for YEARs now.

try again. try hitting the issue head on. you can do it.

Kadaffi made the statement that he had seen what the U.S. had done in Iraq and that he was afraid. That is when he not only turned his entire WMD program, including his nuclear program, over to the Brits and the U.S. for destruction. He joined the War on Terror and has beeninstrumental in helping stop several attacks in the region.

THAT'S WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY. Even the most formerly radical state in the region has turned away from the likes of Bin Laden and Al Qaida.
 

jimpeel

Well-Known Member
bin laden himself said not too long ago that he'd pretty much call his shit off if we left the middle east.

1. He and his boys are getting their asses kicked and hen would say and do anything to get us to leave while he can still salvage some of his reputation.

not that he should be taken at his word,

2. The Quran says that Muslims have no duty to abide by any agreement made with the Infidels.

or that we don't have business being there and should get out,

Yeah, let's get out of there, turn the entire mess over to the radicals so they can kill our economy and use the money they make from the EU and countries like Japan to ramp up their nuclear ambitions. Great idea.

but it certainly is an unsurprising statement to anyone with a basic knowledge of middle eastern politics and peoples.

Read 1 and 2 above.
 

2minkey

bootlicker
1. He and his boys are getting their asses kicked and hen would say and do anything to get us to leave while he can still salvage some of his reputation.

2. The Quran says that Muslims have no duty to abide by any agreement made with the Infidels.

Yeah, let's get out of there, turn the entire mess over to the radicals so they can kill our economy and use the money they make from the EU and countries like Japan to ramp up their nuclear ambitions. Great idea.

Read 1 and 2 above.

wow. nice attempt to polarize my responses into what they aren't. please review and revise. nah, fuck it.

"read 1 and 2 above." you're sure teachin' us a lesson with that one. mah pappy once told me that clowns teach us humility.
 

2minkey

bootlicker
In keeping with the traditional definition of "deviating from a generally accepted religious tradition"......"Sect = Radical Islam."

um, "southern baptist" is a sect. i don't really think you wanna label them as deviant. seems to be some definitional issue here.

Saddam is two and a half years dead. It doesn't matter what he wanted. Bend an ear to what radical Islam wants.

why the fuck would i want to bend an ear to those jerks?

"Caliph" is a spiritual leader of Islam, something the Radicals lust after.

caliph is a governor of a state that happens to be made up of largely muslims but a caliph is NOT a religious authority. sunnites, at least formally, don't believe in a "clergy" as such (direct personal relationship with... ha ha sound familiar protestant mofos?) though shiites do recognize a succession of imams, though they argue as to whether there've been 7 or 12 of them jerks.

"hi, i'm a bearded grumpy jackass that wants women to cover themselves because I JUST CAN'T CONTROL MY URGES!"

Imagine drifting around, pining for someone to give you guidance besides a long-gone child molester. You'd want some direction, too.

sorry, i gave up molesting kids when peel and i quit cruising highway rest stops in the late 90s.

Maybe there are. I only care about the ones that want us dead in this corner.

those are few and far between. there's really only one group that has ambitions at that level. it's the group that stemmed from egyptian islamic jihad that happens to have morphed into that thing which is called "al quada," though the reality of that group is probably far less coherent than our fear-mongering "leaders" would have us think.

Appeasement?? You think it would be a good thing if we bowed to what Binney-Boy wants??

Damn Pelosi & Reid, et al!

yeah, screw all those jerks. let's not send any more money their way, in any form.


but really, don't believe me, keep sending those checks!
 

jimpeel

Well-Known Member
wow. nice attempt to polarize my responses into what they aren't. please review and revise. nah, fuck it.

Maybe you should reread and/or revise your post.

You posted:

... not that he should be taken at his word, or that we don't have business being there and should get out ...

Which becomes

... not ... that we don't have business being there and should get out ...
 

2minkey

bootlicker
Maybe you should reread and/or revise your post.

You posted:

... not that he should be taken at his word, or that we don't have business being there and should get out ...

Which becomes

... not ... that we don't have business being there and should get out ...

keep digging, chooch. maybe someday you'll reach china. and then you can survey the wal-mart factories for your corporate overlords! wwweeeeeee!
 
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