Bloomberg on the proposed Muslim community center

[ResearchMonkey]

Congratulations. You have never been more irrelevant.

Dumbfuckistan is shrinking and you're making it happen. Thanks pal!

Good Day Sir!

 

[spike]

Hahah, making up shit din't work out repeatedly for you as it was so easy to prove wrong.

So you've resorted to your only other trick....weak ass trolling.

You're too easy.

 

[Cerise]

I was pointing out that it would be far more sensible to deport or execute people that would take away America's religious freedom than to execute people for their religion like Cerise and the fascist right advocate.

Executing people for their religion? You mean like the moosies do?

"He who fights that Allah's Word, Islam, should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause." Sahih Bukhari 4.52.625

 

[catocom]

Just reread the whole thread and your complaints about the Imam amount to two things you made up:

1. Supports Hamas
2. Supports Al Qaeda

Both of those things are fabricated BS with absolutely no evidence.

Sorry if you feel like your on the witness stand but when you make up fictional crap like this to spread irrational bigotry and hate people are going to call you on it.

You notice how Rm made up some shit about the guy stabbing the cabbie being pro-mosque? and the cabbie being anti mosque? He then linked to an article that didn't show either of those things.

A reasoning person is going to notice that he made that up and also notice the fact that even if what he made up was true it would be completely irrelevant. But he goes ahead and posts it as if it justifies the spread of anti-American religious bigotry and hate. The kind of thing that promotes attacks like these against innocent people.

This is really kinda sad.
I'll leave you with it there Spike.
Carry on I guess.

 

[2minkey]

he's a sufi for chrissakes... read this cato.

 

[valkyrie]

again, for some of us, it's nothing to do with the religion.
It's the people involved.

I know the opposition wants to always dismiss that though, and makes us out to be bigots.

Which people involved are you opposed to? (And I took the time to read all of the posts between my post and the one below. I did not see an answer to this question.)

Is it Feisal Abdul Rauf? Because this guy is a moderate and he has openly condemned al-Qaeda and anyone affiliated with it. If you want Muslims to be on the side of America, this is one of the people you want on our side. He's a Sufi not a Wahhabi.

Honestly, I see nothing but anti-religious bigotry in the protests. There are no supporting arguments but that.

If a group of Atheists protested the building of a Christian church would you be upset? Put yourself in these people's shoes and walk a mile. They're just like you, Cat. They just want the same freedom to worship as you do.

 

[Cerise]

"Moderate" Imam of the Ground Zero mosque advised the Christian community to submit to Islamic dominance, violence and terror.

"My message to the Christian community in Malaysia is that using the word Allah to mean the Christian God may be theologically and legally correct, but in the context of Malaysia, it is socially provocative. If you want to have influence with people in Malaysia, you must find a way to convey your message without provoking this kind of response."


And so Rauf, surely you can understand that constructing a 13 story mega-mosque right next to Ground Zero may be legally correct, but in the context of New York, it is socially provocative.

 

[2minkey]

suggesting phrasing amounts to terror and violence, huh? wow. no wonder i have a hard time taking most of the posts here seriously.

 

[Cerise]

I guess some people do need the back story, don't they?

Arsonists in Malaysia struck a fourth church on Saturday as the government tried to soothe tensions arising from a row over the use of the word "Allah" to refer to the Christian God.

Once again, the RoP tradition of violence continues unabated, this time over their perceived insult over the use of the word "Allah" by non-Muslims.

 

[catocom]

I won't be responding in this thread anymore.
It's become Totally useless.
The same question over and over.
Then just dismissed, and it starts over yet again.

 

[Cerise]

 

[2minkey]

really, cerise? and the arsonists are under the command of this particular imam, or they're just random assholes? should we assume that any catholic committing a crime did so under the express direction of the pope? please...

 

[spike]

Executing people for their religion? You mean like the moosies do?

I know you know that the vast majority of Muslims don't kill anyone.

However Christians also kill Muslims. So by your reasoning we should generalize all Christians by the few that kill.

Fine, all Christians are murderers.

 

[spike]

This is really kinda sad.

Yes, it is pretty sad that you would make up stuff to justify attacking core American values like religious freedom. It's sickening that people would target a group and want to take away their freedom because of fear mongering.

 

[spike]

"Moderate" Imam of the Ground Zero mosque advised the Christian community to submit to Islamic dominance, violence and terror.

"My message to the Christian community in Malaysia is that using the word Allah to mean the Christian God may be theologically and legally correct, but in the context of Malaysia, it is socially provocative. If you want to have influence with people in Malaysia, you must find a way to convey your message without provoking this kind of response."

It's funny that you accuse him of advising the christian community to submit to dominance violence and terror and than your link had nothing to do with any of that.

It must have made you just sick to see Bush kissing men of a religion you so irrationally hate.

And so Rauf, surely you can understand that constructing a 13 story mega-mosque right next to Ground Zero may be legally correct, but in the context of New York, it is socially provocative.

No, it's not. It's a gesture for peace and understanding. Not provocative until idiot politicians try and whip up some fear and lash out against the innocent to gain votes from the gullible.

"Some of the comments that have been uttered about Islam do not reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of most Americans. Islam, as practiced by the vast majority of people, is a peaceful religion, a religion that respects others. Ours is a country based upon tolerance and we welcome people of all faiths in America." - George Bush

He did get a couple things right huh?

 

[spike]

really, cerise? and the arsonists are under the command of this particular imam, or they're just random assholes? should we assume that any catholic committing a crime did so under the express direction of the pope? please...

Of course, all the child raping was done at the command of the Pope and all Catholics rape children.

 

[Cerise]

really, cerise? and the arsonists are under the command of this particular imam, or they're just random assholes? should we assume that any catholic committing a crime did so under the express direction of the pope? please...

Pay attention much? Short term memory gone?

Weren't you the one who had just said he was a moderate sufi moosie?

Him telling the Christians in malaysia that they need to go along to get along or they will be burned out doesn't sound too moderate to me.

Nor does the fact that he is a contributor to the anti-Israel, jew hating flotilla coincidently enough, based in malaysia as well, make him sound like he could possibly bear any semblance to a so-called "moderate muslim".

 

[spike]

Him telling the Christians in malaysia that they need to go along to get along or they will be burned out doesn't sound too moderate to me.

Why do all the arguments against Park 51 rely on made up crap?


"If you want to have influence with people in Malaysia, you must find a way to convey your message without provoking this kind of response."

Why would you blatantly misrepresent this as "You need to go along to get along"?

He said "if you want to have influence here's my suggestion". If they don't want to have influence fine. If they think they can have influence without following his suggestions fine. He didn't fucking issue any fucking orders like you want to make it out with your fear mongering.

Nor does the fact that he is a contributor to the anti-Israel, jew hating flotilla

Actually your link says nothing about directly contributing to the flotilla but if he did...good for him!

You made up more shit about it being anti-Israel and jew hating which I guess is the only tactic you have. It's ineffective as usual because it's pretty clear the flotilla was about bring attention to Israel's illegal blockade which is starving Palestinians. But your probably for starving Palestinians too.

It's funny how blatantly the right just sprints towards fascism when they get any chance.

 

[spike]

Tell me Cerise, are you cheering on all the new terrorism or denouncing it?

Murfreesboro Tennessee Mosque Site Torched
Arson investigation under way
Aug 29 2010 Posted in Featured News, U.S. News by Mark Leevan with 0 Comments and 0 Reactions

Someone poured a combustible liquid on construction equipment at the site of the new Islamic Center and Mosque near Murfeesboro, Tennessee.

Federal agents are investigating the fire as an arson crime.

Carnie Ayash, a spokeswoman for the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro, said the Rutherford County Sheriff’s Department was contacted around 1:30 a.m. by a witness to the flames. The site has been the scene of vandalism twice in the past.

Ayash said the vandalism at the site…

“takes it to a whole new level. Everyone in our community no longer feels safe. To set a fire that could have blown up equipment and, God forbid, spread and caused damage to the neighbors there … we really feel like this is something that we and the neighbors don’t deserve.”

Muslim families have been worshiping in the area for years in an office suite. 250 local families have been using the facility.

When plans were presented to city officials hundreds stormed the meeting to protest. Supporters of the Murfreesboro mosque gathered as a show of support on June 24.

“We unfortunately did not experience hostilities for the 30 years we’ve been here and have only seen the hostility since approval of the site plan for the new center…”

Said Saleh Sbenaty, a member of the planning committee and a professor of engineering technology at Middle Tennessee State University.

Opponents say the center more than a place of prayer; they are afraid the 15-acre site that was once farmland will be turned into a terrorist training ground for Muslim militants.

“They are not a religion
. They are a political, militaristic group,”

Bob Shelton, a 76-year-old retiree who lives in the area, told The Associated Press.

Read The Full Story: Murfreesboro Tennessee Mosque Site Torched – IndyPosted

http://indyposted.com/84370/murfreesboro-tennessee-mosque-site-torched/

 

[2minkey]

Pay attention much? Short term memory gone?

Weren't you the one who had just said he was a moderate sufi moosie?

Him telling the Christians in malaysia that they need to go along to get along or they will be burned out doesn't sound too moderate to me.

Nor does the fact that he is a contributor to the anti-Israel, jew hating flotilla coincidently enough, based in malaysia as well, make him sound like he could possibly bear any semblance to a so-called "moderate muslim".

actually given the link you posted he sounds more like a radical peacenik. now i know why you don't like him. if the bad guys don't act bad that just leaves... nothing to get upset about, and that would be boring, right?