Bloomberg on the proposed Muslim community center

spike

New Member
Looks like you got pretty desperate to change the topic from anti-American religious bigotry huh?
 

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
Looks like you got pretty desperate to change the topic from anti-American religious bigotry huh?
No, the point still stands. There is war among Islamics, be peaceful and tolerant or blow-shit-up. Seems the blow-shit-up faction is winning this internal war.

Until the peaceful faction makes an effort to make peaceful the defacto state I don;t think we should open ourselves to the blow-shit-up crowd. -- You keep saying the vast majority of Islam is peaceful and tolerant but you haven't been able to demonstrate this in the Islamic nations -- can it really be that hard?

You said you have demonstrable facts, so demonstrate.
 

spike

New Member
No, the point still stands. There is war among Islamics, be peaceful and tolerant or blow-shit-up. Seems the blow-shit-up faction is winning this internal war.

Looks like you made that up.

Until the peaceful faction makes an effort to make peaceful the defacto state I don;t think we should open ourselves to the blow-shit-up crowd.

The vast majority of Muslims in the US have been peaceful through US history.

You keep saying the vast majority of Islam is peaceful and tolerant but you haven't been able to demonstrate this in the Islamic nations -- can it really be that hard?

Seems like it should be pretty obvious to you that the vast majority of Muslims all over the world are peaceful people going about their day and feeding their families. It's not like billions of of them are just committing violence constantly.

Do you have anything at all showing that the majority are violent?
 

spike

New Member
Demonstrate to me where the majority of TP is racist.

I don't think the majority are racist. A fair number certainly are. Can you demonstrate the majority of Muslims are violent

Demonstrate to me that historically the Democrats have not been against the negro and that we conservatives are racist.

Did I claim either of those thiongs or did you make that up?

Look again, here's what I said"

Civil rights history is interesting. The Civil Rights Act was responsible for most of the racist Southern Democrats moving to the Republican party.

"The passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which was widely opposed by white Southerners, was the event that finally moved the majority of Southerners to the Republican Party on a national level."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats

This trend has continued to current day with the vast majority of white supremacists identifying with the Republicans or Tea Party.

Seems like your back to your tiresome trick of making up shit I said.
 

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
Looks like you made that up.
Nice factual repsonse. it's getting old.

Seems the that Islamic violence is spreading into western world faster than ever before.
The vast majority of Muslims in the US have been peaceful through US history.
So you can easily demonstrate that there is not an increase in Islamic violence going on?


Seems like it should be pretty obvious to you that the vast majority of Muslims all over the world are peaceful people going about their day and feeding their families. It's not like billions of of them are just committing violence constantly.
No, its very obvious at all. It should quite easy for you to demonstrate the tolerance and peaceful nature if Islamic cultures and nations?




Do you have anything at all showing that the majority are violent?
Not exactly, and I don't think most Islamic act in violence. I simply feel they are complacent with the violence and even secretly support it. -- What I do see are daily headlines of Islamic violence and very few article or effort to put an end to the violence.

I suppose it will be very easy for you to demonstrate vastly larger numbers of Islamic players working to curtail the violence among their fellows? -- big rallies, loud voices of opposition, peaceful fatwas.

A well-known radical Australian cleric is calling for his death by “beheading” following comments Wilders made to Australian television in which he described Islam as “retarded” and “violent.”


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peaceful indeed.


 

ResearchMonkey

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Seems like your back to your tiresome trick of making up shit I said.
So Robert Byrd was a Republican... I had no idea.

82% of Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 versus only 64% of Democrats.

Are you even trying spike? You should be able to lay down a plethora of events of facts if it were true. -- Southern democrats is your argument in whole, laughable at best?

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So you haven't demonstrated much to make the point the TeaParty is racist.

You lie
 

spike

New Member
Nice factual repsonse.

You were expecting a factual response to something you made up? Pointing out that you made it up is all you can really expect.

Seems the that Islamic violence is spreading into western world faster than ever before
.

And then you make up something else.


Uh oh, one of the investors thought he was donating to an orphanage. Shut it down! OMGZ.

Although by that standard we're going to have to shut down Fox News too.

So you can easily demonstrate that there is not an increase in Islamic violence going on?

As soon as you demonstrate that there is we can look at your evidence...then wonder what your point would be since it would almost certainly represent a tiny percentage of all Muslims just like any increase in violence by Christians would represent a tiny portion of all Christians.

No, its very obvious at all. It should quite easy for you to demonstrate the tolerance and peaceful nature if Islamic cultures and nations?

Sure, if you'd like to prove your point take the Muslim population of the US and then show me that most of them have been convicted of a violent crime. Easy.

Not exactly, and I don't think most Islamic act in violence. I simply feel they are complacent with the violence and even secretly support it.

Oh, so all this made up stuff is entirely based on your feelings and emotions. That explains why it bears no resemblance to any facts. In contrast you openly support deporting fellow Americans based on religion and cheer on violence against Muslim civilians.

So by actual evidence your the type of person we have to worry about and should consider deporting.

I suppose it will be very easy for you to demonstrate vastly larger numbers of Islamic players working to curtail the violence among their fellows? -- big rallies, loud voices of opposition, peaceful fatwas.

Large numbers of Islamic leaders have spoken out against the violence. What I'd like to see is big rallies and loud voices of opposition against Catholic kid raping now.

A well-known radical Australian cleric is calling for his death by “beheading” following comments Wilders made to Australian television in which he described Islam as “retarded” and “violent.”

Uh oh, you found one guy well known to be a radical. That justifies generalizing billions of people right.

So all I have to do is find one racist Tea Partier to generalize the whole Tea Party right?
 

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
Nice, you've only been able to demonstrate one single point. You're an idiot.


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Enough time wasted with you, again.


November 2nd can't come fast enough.
 

spike

New Member
Nice, you've only been able to demonstrate one single point.

Oh I've demonstrated many points here. Yet you have been unable to justify the bigotry and generalization of billions of people and the anti-American proposal to deport fellow Americans based on their religion.


You're an idiot.

And of course there's the trolling indicating you have utterly failed again.

I love seeing this stuff. It's a blatant admission of failure with you. Poor poor kid.

November 2nd can't come fast enough.

You think you're going to be able to vote all the religions you personally don't like out of the country? :laugh:
 

2minkey

bootlicker
Southern democrats is your argument in whole, laughable at best?

okay sparky why don't you tell us all about liberal southern democrats in the 60s?

you realize you are trying to deny what is common historical knowledge, right? what next? holocaust denial?
 

spike

New Member
82% of Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 versus only 64% of Democrats.

Are you even trying spike? You should be able to lay down a plethora of events of facts if it were true. -- Southern democrats is your argument in whole, laughable at best?

Damn you make this easy. Check out the number of Southern Democrats who voted against the civil rights act.

"The signing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, however, was the last straw for many Southern Democrats, who began voting against Democratic incumbents for GOP candidates."

Wrapped that up pretty quick.
 

Cerise

Well-Known Member
November 2nd can't come fast enough.


Watch. spike will say something like "the cons said they would take "X" amount of seats, when they actually only took "Y" amount. Even though they took the majority, they didn't actually do what they said they would do. So what's your point?"
 

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
SouthernDemocrats, a well measured defense that is always the answer -- what about the rest of your sordid history-X? Was Byrd a Southern Democrat? -'splain the full logic here.

How does this demonstrate that conservatives are racist as you constantly proclaim?
 

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
okay sparky why don't you tell us all about liberal southern democrats in the 60s?

you realize you are trying to deny what is common historical knowledge, right? what next? holocaust denial?
Hey crackle-lacking-slackey-lackey, i, didn't deny it, it is the sole point on which he says conservative are racist. How does that hold as demonstrable proof of anything. Seems to me Democrats in congress held out on that vote.

Fact is the democrats have long been, and remain, the enemy of the colored man.

The democrats sure have done a lot to help out Peggy.
 

spike

New Member
How does this demonstrate that conservatives are racist as you constantly proclaim?

Damn dude, if I constantly proclaim it come up with one example ok?

This came up because you said "Which political party has historically supported civil rights?". So I gave you a little history lesson about how the people against the Civil Rights Act moved to your party.

You might want to quit making shit up and acting like I said things that I didn't. You're going to get caught every time.
 

2minkey

bootlicker
Hey crackle-lacking-slackey-lackey, i, didn't deny it, it is the sole point on which he says conservative are racist. How does that hold as demonstrable proof of anything. Seems to me Democrats in congress held out on that vote.

Fact is the democrats have long been, and remain, the enemy of the colored man.

The democrats sure have done a lot to help out Peggy.

you know what you are. you're not fooling anyone, except, perhaps, yourself. own up to it and be a real man. don't be a whining pussy.
 

valkyrie

Well-Known Member
Wow, this thread has really veered off the track. LOL! Off Topic Central! LOL!
:lol:

I don't think that Republicans, as a group, are racists. I do not think that conservatives, as a group, are racists. I do believe that most Right-Wing Christians are xenophobes (in the sense that they fear any belief different from their own) but do not realize it, or have trouble admitting it. The mosque in NYC is one very good example. The people who are protesting it do not understand that by blocking the renovation of this building to repurpose it for a Muslim community center and mosque is putting a nail in their own coffin. It makes protesting any Christian organization fair turn around. They've opened a can of worms.
 
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