Get ready for the redistribution of your retirement account

Gotholic

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Government Sets Its Sights on Private Retirement Accounts: “Giant Effort to Redistribute the Wealth of America’s Older Citizens”


Mac Slavo
November 20th, 2012
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A new effort by the Obama administration, Congress, the Treasury Department and labor unions aims to fundamentally alter how Americans plan and save for retirement.

Warnings have been popping up over the last several years about the possibility of re-appropriating the $3.5 Trillion sitting in private retirement and spreading those funds around to Americans who are deemed less fortunate.

This couldn’t possibly happen in America, right? At one time, most Americans also believed heath care mandates that force Americans at the barrel of a gun to surrender portions of their earnings into a universal system for all would never happen. Well, it did.

And now, those who would control and regulate every aspect of our lives are making a new push; one whose efforts will ultimately end in the seizure and redistribution the personal retirement savings of every American who has ever put money into a 401(k) or IRA.

This is no longer in the realm of conspiracy, but rather, public record.

A recent hearing sponsored by the Treasury and Labor Departments marked the beginning of the Obama Administration’s effort to nationalize the nation’s pension system and to eliminate private retirement accounts including IRA’s and 401k plans, NSC is warning.​
The hearing, held in the Labor Department’s main auditorium, was monitored by NSC staff and featured a line up of left-wing activists including one representative of the AFL-CIO who advocated for more government regulation over private retirement accounts and even the establishment of government-sponsored annuities that would take the place of 401k plans.
“This hearing was set up to explore why Americans are not saving as much for their retirement as they could,” explains National Seniors Council National Director Robert Crone, “However, it is clear that this is the first step towards a government takeover. It feels just like the beginning of the debate over health care and we all know how that ended up.”​
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A representative of the liberal Pension Rights Center, Rebecca Davis, testified that the government needs to get involved because 401k plans and IRAs are unfair to poor people. She demanded the Obama administration set up a “government-sponsored program administered by the PBGC (the governments’ Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation).”​
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Such “reforms” would effectively end private retirement accounts in America, Crone warns.​
“These people want the government to require that ultimately all Americans buy these government annuities instead of saving or investing on their own. The Government could then take these trillions of dollars and redistribute it through this new national retirement system.”​
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“This effort ultimately is designed to grab the retirement nest eggs of America’s senior citizens. This new government annuity scheme, even if it is at first optional, will turn into a giant effort to redistribute the wealth of America’s older citizens,” explains Crone. “This scheme mirrors what I expect the President will try to do with Social Security. He wants to turn that program into a welfare program, too.”​
With the re-election of President Obama, a majority Democrat Senate and powerful organization and lobbying from labor unions, we can fully expect legislation that will shift private accounts into the public coffers to become reality in the not too distant future.

In fact, the push to mold the perceptions surrounding this issue is already on, as highlighted in a recent Market Watch article which claims to explain the 10 Things 401(k) Plans Won’t Tell You.

Did you know, for example, that 401(k) plans aren’t supposed to provide you with full retirement benefits, and that they were originally intended to be “mere supplements” to other plans, and that they only “benefit the rich?” Not only that, but according to the article, no one can really tell you how much money you’re going to need; all of those math formulas and expert calculations were all wrong. Additionally, there are so many hidden fees that you’re losing hundreds of thousands of dollars to Wall Street (most of us knew that one).

And all this time, the millions of Americans who contributed their money to these accounts over the last three decades were under the impression that their accounts would one day grow into a retirement nest egg from which retirees could spend their days in comfort and relaxation.

Nope. We had it all wrong. Private retirement accounts were never actually designed to ensure that you could retire! Only a government managed retirement plan can ensure that you will have the money you need when you turn 59 1/2. Only they will be able to ensure you don’t pay excessive, hidden fees (even though they could have created legislation to require firms to overtly disclose this information int he first place). And, only the government can provide 100% full retirement coverage, not just supplemental funds. Oh, and they also know WHEN you should retire, currently 65 years of age.

It’s on folks. They are going to hit Americans from all angles on this one.

First, the political hearings that will claim only the rich are benefiting from private retirement accounts.

Then they’ll point out how stock market crashes and volatility put your money at risk. In fact, if we do have another market crash, look for this to be a key reverberation.

Then they put the spin machine into action, so that you think you’re getting unbiased analysis and truth.

Then they open the guilt spigot and make those who have personal retirement savings wonder if they are being greedy, and those who don’t have savings will direct their anger not just at the rich, but anyone who has put any money away.

Finally, they will pass a bill, which we have to pass first in order to know what’s in it, and it’ll be a done deal.

The government of this country is coming for everything they can get their hands on.

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2minkey

bootlicker
don't worry junior, as an occupy member you'll never have shit for the gov to take from you anyway.
 

2minkey

bootlicker
yeah you have to have income to be taxed. trust me this will benefit you as a lumpenproletarian occupier. us working adults will be the ones that get cornholed. i will be subsidizing your tent city.
 

Winky

Well-Known Member
don't worry Gothy
things are far worse than they seem
only members of the Politicheskoy Byuro
and the Vorovskoy mir will enjoy any of the
bounty in the new Amerika the rest of us needn't
concern ourselves with such things going
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2minkey

bootlicker
great. a has been and a never will be commiserating about doom and government agents in our pants.
 

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
Just because you disagree doesn't make my correct statements wrong.
 

2minkey

bootlicker
so basically the government is seizing my retirement because some guys from fringe websites are making predictions about it based on their own imaginary obsessions. huh. never knew causality worked that way.

sorry, but i'm too busy preparing for the martian invasion they predicted last week to worry about this crap.
 

jimpeel

Well-Known Member
so basically the government is seizing my retirement because some guys from fringe websites are making predictions about it based on their own imaginary obsessions. huh. never knew causality worked that way.

sorry, but i'm too busy preparing for the martian invasion they predicted last week to worry about this crap.

The Congress has been eying 401ks, IRAs, and Roth IRAs for some time now. There is this big ol' pot o' money sittin' out there just ripe fer the takin'. They want to do to those accounts what Lyndon Johnson did to Social Security when he seized all of the funds and replaced them with bonds.

The current program would create "Guaranteed Retirement Accounts" (GRA) in place of the current systems.

Remember, there is nothing more insatiable than a politician's lust for other people's money. They just can never get enough.

If you think this merely the ponderings of conspiracy wonks and theorists, try this from the Harvard University Economic Policy Institute. Hardly a right wing conspiracy site.

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2minkey

bootlicker
The Congress has been eying 401ks, IRAs, and Roth IRAs for some time now. There is this big ol' pot o' money sittin' out there just ripe fer the takin'. They want to do to those accounts what Lyndon Johnson did to Social Security when he seized all of the funds and replaced them with bonds.

The current program would create "Guaranteed Retirement Accounts" (GRA) in place of the current systems.

Remember, there is nothing more insatiable than a politician's lust for other people's money. They just can never get enough.

If you think this merely the ponderings of conspiracy wonks and theorists, try this from the Harvard University Economic Policy Institute. Hardly a right wing conspiracy site.

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don't mistake my jocularity for naivete. i'm eking out a living writing script for satan's earthly minions while obummer is chucking off in front of the UAW. it's a grim time. but no reason to fag out like winky.
 

2minkey

bootlicker
i assume you've got 1000+ rounds, food/water, and enough drugs to keep the teeners chained up in the garage passive for six months already stored, so i don't think you'll need to up your defcon alert matrix for a while. meaning ever. but if that's what you like to whack it to, hey man, scro it up. add water. makes its own sauce.
 

Winky

Well-Known Member
SO YOU WANT TO SURRENDER ON SODOMITE MARRIAGE?
POSTED BY ANN BARNHARDT - DECEMBER 9, AD 2012 9:12 PM MST
So you think the best path forward is to surrender on sodomy and sodomite "marriage", huh? Well, you might want to click the link below and read up, and then see if you can extrapolate how that is going to work out for you.
What everyone simply MUST understand is that ANYTHING coming out of the "intelligentsia" of the Catholic Church for the last 50 years is coming from a group of people who either are themselves Communist-homosexualist infiltrators, or sodomites who were SPECIFICALLY RECRUITED by the Communist-homosexualist infiltrators. There was a span of 25 years or so in which it was darn-near impossible for a heterosexual, orthodox, faithful, believing Catholic man to be ordained a priest. Let's call that something like the ordination classes of 1970-1995. Sodomites and lesbian nuns were the gatekeepers to the seminaries. Any heterosexual man who actually got past them was usually drummed out of seminary because they were literally living in the midst of a gay bathhouse, and many of them were threatened with sexual assault. Just a few were able to get through, most notably Fr. Zuhlsdorf and a precious few others. Many of these men now say the Tridentine Latin Mass - the Mass that was said BEFORE 1968 and the Communist-homosexualist infiltration.
As an aside, some people think that celibacy is to be asexual. This is total bosh. If a priest or nun tries to tell you that he or she is "asexual", he is probably either an active sodomite or so inclined to the point of being sympathetic to the sodomite revolution. An orthodox priest, if asked, will happily and without a shred of hesitation tell you that he is thoroughly heterosexual, and has espoused himself to the Church, and is thus celibate and chaste. But that does not, in any way, make him asexual. Remember that. Claims to asexuality are a big, fat red flag.
So, what we must now do is look at what the Church has said on homosexuality and sodomitical behavior for the 1930 years PRIOR to the Communist-homosexualit infiltration of the Church in the mid-20th century. I will give you two excerpts, and then send you to the link to read up for yourselves.
First, the Council of Elvira in 305-306 AD:
The first statement of a Church council on homosexual practices was issued by the Council of Elvira (305-306). The decree excludes from communion, even in articulo mortis (at the moment of death), the stupratores puerorum (corrupters of boys).
Finally, I give you St. Catherine of Siena, who is not just a saint, but also a DOCTOR OF THE CHURCH. Our Lord spoke directly to St. Catherine, which is very, very, very rare, and not only did the Church declare her a saint, they took the extra step of ratifying the legitimacy of St. Catherine's locutions from Our Lord by extraordinarily declaring her a Doctor of the Church. The bold text below is the words of Our Lord as spoken to St. Catherine of Siena. Hold on to your hats:
Saint Catherine of Siena, a religious mystic of the 14th century, relays words of Our Lord Jesus Christ about the vice against nature, which contaminated part of the clergy in her time. Referring to sacred ministers, He says: "They not only fail from resisting this frailty [of fallen human nature] . . . but do even worse as they commit the cursed sin against nature. Like the blind and stupid, having dimmed the light of their understanding, they do not recognize the disease and misery in which they find themselves. For this not only causes Me nausea, but displeases even the demons themselves, whom these miserable creatures have chosen as their lords. For Me, this sin against nature is so abominable that, for it alone, five cities were submersed, by virtue of the judgment of My Divine Justice, which could no longer bear them. . . . It is disagreeable to the demons, not because evil displeases them and they find pleasure in good, but because their nature is angelic and thus is repulsed upon seeing such an enormous sin being committed. It is true that it is the demon who hits the sinner with the poisoned arrow of lust, but when a man carries out such a sinful act, the demon leaves."
HERE IS THE FULL COLLECTION OF QUOTES - DEFINITELY WORTH A BOOKMARK.
But my hairdresser is so CUTE, and he always tells me how cute my outfit is. I can't judge him! But my nephew is such a sweetie, and he always played with dolls, even when he was little. How dare you say he can't have sex!
Because what your hairdresser and your nephew do with other men when you aren't there, namely jamming their penises up into each other's feces-laden colons and mouths and using that as a point of masturbatory friction, is so depraved and so incredibly evil, inhuman and disgusting that it makes Our Lord NAUSEOUS, and is so twisted that even the demons choose to withdraw instead of staying around and witnessing it.
Remember 20 years ago before you allowed yourself to be desensitized to sodomitical behavior by the agitporn on the teevee? Remember when the sight of two men or two women in even the slightest homosexual activity, or even the IMPLICATION of homosexual activity, made you nauseous, frightened, sad and disgusted all at the same time? That is healthy. That is the way it is supposed to be. If you have become desensitized to this evil, beg God to regenerate that part of you so that you once again can have a right-ordered and Godly response to it. Because if you are indifferent to it, satan wins, because not only will no one help people with same-sex attractions carry their cross in chastity, but now we will have the very people who should be helping them (the Church) actually sticking their foot in their back and PUSHING THEM down the road to hell.
So, when you see and hear people on the so-called "right" saying that we have to throw in the towel on this, understand that they are fully in the service of satan, whether they realize it or not. And STEER WELL CLEAR.
 

Winky

Well-Known Member
The demographic shift to Third World welfare recipients means Republicans will never win again
 
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