paul_valaru
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What is marriage
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paul_valaru
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Uki Chick said:
at the point me and steve where discussing something, was the time I was doing it all day and all night
MrBishop
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Marriage (Modern)- A promise/vow made by two people (to each other) to love, honour and respect each other through the good times and the bad, health and illness, richness and poverty and anything else that life throws at them so long as they both live. Entered into freely and without restraint, witnessed by friends, family, and associates.
Sometimes, but not always, this marriage is blessed by a priest or religious leader. Please note that even in these cases... the priest in question is not Marrying the couple. They are the ministers of their own wedding and state their own vows... even in Christian wedding ceremonies..the priest is there to Bless the union and assist in the ceremony.
The union of the two individuals is registered by the GVT of the country where they live so reflect their change in status.
Arranged Marriage - same as above but the couple in question have not chosen each other, do not necessarily love each other and have no say in whether they wish to marry or not.
Civil Marriage - same as above, but the marriage is not blessed .
Common Law - same as above, but there is no ceremony and the GVT in question does not allow all of the same rights or status as a registered married couple. This is based on the number of years that the couple have lived together. *depending on the GVT/Country/Laws* The vow is private and understood.
In all cases, there is a merging of the two families from which the couple came into an extended family. Sometimes the relationship will bear 'fruit' through children (born or adopted), though if it does not, the promise/vow is not lessened.
These long-term relationships are the concrete which binds the society together.
**As an aside - polygamy (the marriage of one man to many women) is not considered a sin in the Bible..then again, neither are concubines**
Sometimes, but not always, this marriage is blessed by a priest or religious leader. Please note that even in these cases... the priest in question is not Marrying the couple. They are the ministers of their own wedding and state their own vows... even in Christian wedding ceremonies..the priest is there to Bless the union and assist in the ceremony.
The union of the two individuals is registered by the GVT of the country where they live so reflect their change in status.
Arranged Marriage - same as above but the couple in question have not chosen each other, do not necessarily love each other and have no say in whether they wish to marry or not.
Civil Marriage - same as above, but the marriage is not blessed .
Common Law - same as above, but there is no ceremony and the GVT in question does not allow all of the same rights or status as a registered married couple. This is based on the number of years that the couple have lived together. *depending on the GVT/Country/Laws* The vow is private and understood.
In all cases, there is a merging of the two families from which the couple came into an extended family. Sometimes the relationship will bear 'fruit' through children (born or adopted), though if it does not, the promise/vow is not lessened.
These long-term relationships are the concrete which binds the society together.
**As an aside - polygamy (the marriage of one man to many women) is not considered a sin in the Bible..then again, neither are concubines**
PrincessLissa
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Marriage is a piece of paper that is supposed to mean a lot more than it does. You can get married, but the bond that should be there is not always there.
Before getting the piece of paper there should be a love and trust between the two people who know fully well that they ARE going to spend the rest of their lives together. Not only can they see the cute image of the two of them at 70 sitting in rockers on the front porch with their glasses of lemonade, they can also envision the rough and chaotic time in their 30's when they are rushing children off to the school bus while burning the eggs on the stove and the baby is getting strained peas all over daddy's work pants. They can see that there will be fights and disagreements and that it's not going to be happily after every day of their life together. There should be compromise between the two and the little things should be able to be let go and shrugged off.
These are just a few ideas that I have. People talk and say stupid things cause Erik and I are not going to get married right away. We plan to, just not right now. We both know what marriage means (or should mean) and we are just as happy to wait for that big day to get our piece of paper. As far as we are concerned, we are married. Plus, we are being selfish and waiting till we have money saved for a nice ceremony and such. We want to make sure that the kids have everything they n eed before we spend money on the wedding.
Before getting the piece of paper there should be a love and trust between the two people who know fully well that they ARE going to spend the rest of their lives together. Not only can they see the cute image of the two of them at 70 sitting in rockers on the front porch with their glasses of lemonade, they can also envision the rough and chaotic time in their 30's when they are rushing children off to the school bus while burning the eggs on the stove and the baby is getting strained peas all over daddy's work pants. They can see that there will be fights and disagreements and that it's not going to be happily after every day of their life together. There should be compromise between the two and the little things should be able to be let go and shrugged off.
These are just a few ideas that I have. People talk and say stupid things cause Erik and I are not going to get married right away. We plan to, just not right now. We both know what marriage means (or should mean) and we are just as happy to wait for that big day to get our piece of paper. As far as we are concerned, we are married. Plus, we are being selfish and waiting till we have money saved for a nice ceremony and such. We want to make sure that the kids have everything they n eed before we spend money on the wedding.
tonksy
New Member
marriage? pfft.
i just want to be happy. i tried the marriage thing twice. once to someone who ignored me for 4 years and another to a closet drunken mama's boy. i know it can be a beautiful thing but it didn't work for me and i won't insult the institution further.
the down side of this is that a wedding can be such an emotional thing. an expression and celebration of your love and relationship
one day vs. the rest of your life....
i just want to be happy. i tried the marriage thing twice. once to someone who ignored me for 4 years and another to a closet drunken mama's boy. i know it can be a beautiful thing but it didn't work for me and i won't insult the institution further.
the down side of this is that a wedding can be such an emotional thing. an expression and celebration of your love and relationship
one day vs. the rest of your life....
AlphaTroll
New Member
Marriage is what all my friends seem to be doing lately Must be a fad, I'm sure it will blow over soon.
Must be a fad, I'm sure it will blow over soon.
Marriage technically is the union of two people who love each other and have professed that love in front of god and taken those vows. What genders it can involve is determined by the specific church in which they choose to wed. Technically a civil union is not a marriage (unless it is later blessed I guess...like Prince Charles and Camilla...I'd call that a marriage)...but for all extensive purposes I personally do not see any differences between a marriage and a civil union in terms of commitment and the like. Of course I am not really religious so that is to be expected. Therefore, calling a civil union a marriage to me is fine. As for common-law, I see it as holding back, I see it as not taking the plunge. Personally, if you wanna say your married, if you wanna be married, then say those vows...be it in front of god or inside city hall...doesn't matter. Common-law to me is not marriage, it should not be refered to as marriage...if people choose to do it that's their choice and I am not saying it's wrong...but it is NOT the same as marriage.
paul_valaru
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Winky said:
marriage isn't a paragraph, it's a sentance
Raven
Annoying SOB
No the bibles a tome....*see's the play on words there*Winky said:
Anyways.....way I see it marriage is what comes when to people love each other and want to make a lasting commitment. I mean it's not a necessity by any stretch of the imagination but it can be nice (I would imagine) to be able to say 'look we've made this commitment, we will try out hardest to keep it working'.
It should not, however, be goverened by 1) a book 2) how you will benefit from this financially in the future or how much of a detriment it will be to your fucking tax bill. I mean for fecks sake using that as an excuse to make yourself feel better for not liking whats going on is just.....sad. I suppose all those heterosexual couples make absolutely sod all impact on your tax bill? I doubt it entirely. As with everything in America (broad sweeping statement but from what's been posted here it looks about right) it looks like the almighty dollar has triumphed again.
Also you may not like the fact that gay people can get married in other parts of the world because of your creed/religion/outlook on life and thats fine with me, everyones entitled to an opinion. Conversely like it has been said I do not agree with either 'side' trying to force their views on someone else. What I do think is wrong is that people who love each other cannot enter into marriage (I was going to say holy act but it is SO not anymore) just because they have the same genitalia.
Anyways short version: yes I agree its a good thing if it works but it should not be a necessity and everyone should be entitled to it if they want to.
Winky said:
I'm an Engineer...how the hell am I suppose to know? I just don't like hitting enter when I don't need too...it's a waste of energy...and even though energy can not be created or destroyed when I push enter it gets converted into a form which is no longer in my body and therefore that is bad...
Winky
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In addition, liberal Elites perpetuate the false myth of oppressed minorities. They hate individualism because individuals can think for themselves. They hate school vouchers. They threaten our world empire with transnational government under the UN. They live in big cities. They are anti-Bush. Their anti-Iraq War stance proves they are anti-American.