Sarah Palin Readies Bus Tour Amid 2012 Speculation

Winky

Well-Known Member
Sarah Palin is the anti-christ and is destroying the world

was that not the desired effect?
 

2minkey

bootlicker
Re: Sarah Palin gives good head on the Bus Tour

you talking about the Moorish rule or Francisco Franco?

be specific

private property for whom, then? be specific.

i think about the industrial revolution in england, and how a rising entreprenuerial class schmoozed their way into government favor, and got the public farming lands roped off. so then the dirt farmers gotta work in the factory.

ha ha fucking ha! those guys rocked! drill ye terriers drill.
 

2minkey

bootlicker
Re: Sarah Palin is the anti-christ and is destroying the world

was that not the desired effect?

likely not for the dipshits that (presumably) FOIA'd the records.

i think it's just swell. i think i'm just looking forward to the spectacle this time around.
 

Winky

Well-Known Member
E-mails are more free publicity for Sarah!

True they should demand a cut from all the millions she's making
 

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
You still have no answer if a bad economy and rising oil prices are controlled by the president and mean they are unsuccessful as you said -> both these things happened under Bush -> Bush was an unsuccessful president.
I know you love living in the past, because you're fucking idiot that has trouble with the difficulties of teh real world.

Bush isn't in office anymore. It is Obama, the current president, who had a the most expensive plan promising fix to economy, he failed miserably. ..please try to focus Mr Quixote.



:gay:

On GDP:

"There’s no such thing as a free lunch, and there’s no such thing as an honest case for extending the Bush tax cuts. Ten years of hard data prove that in terms of promoting economic growth and creating jobs, they have been a miserable failure. They didn’t work while George W. Bush was in office and they haven’t worked during the first two years of the Obama Administration. No wonder the Congressional Budget Office says that the GOP’s proposed extension of tax cuts to the rich will reduce future economic growth.

In terms of promoting economic growth, the Bush tax cuts have been a miserable failure.

Under George W. Bush, U.S. GDP growth averaged 2.1 percent a year. Since the end of World War II, the country has never experienced such low economic growth during an eight-year period. And if you exclude the war demobilization of 1946, when U.S. government spending fell by two-thirds and GDP fell by 10.9 percent, Bush had the worst economic record since Herbert Hoover.

There’s simply no way to make Bush’s performance look good. Even if you cherry-pick the data (by excluding fiscal year 2008, when GDP growth was zero), economic expansion was anemic. During Bush’s first seven years, it averaged 2.4 percent, the worst rate in half a century. And what was the source of most of that economic growth? Homeowner equity extraction. Meanwhile, one sector where growth outpaced that of all prior administrations was residential mortgage debt. It almost doubled between 2001 and 2006, from $5.1 to $9.8 trillion."


[edit to correct the true source] http://www.barackobamaandusa.com/da...-the-republican-cult-of-economic-failure.html


Nice source graph that ends in '06



Here's jobs under Bush:

"President George W. Bush will leave office Tuesday with the worst employment-growth record of any president since World War II, according to a new analysis by Bizjournals.


[edited again to correct the true source]
: http://www.barackobamaandusa.com/da...-the-republican-cult-of-economic-failure.html

let's just put that "old record" into perspective for you...lets come up to present time and look at unemployment.

HuffPo says:Nearly Half Of America Says U.S. Nearing Great Depression: CNN Poll


Lets see an up-to-date graph of Obama's "unexpected" employment growth.

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Source: Market Ticker.

I would venture to guess that real unemployment is much higher than the official 9.1%

"Jobs are growing in the U.S. They've grown for 12 straight months under Obama's economic stimulus policies and, in 2010 alone, more jobs were added than in Bush's 8 years as president."

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http://ecopolitology.org/2011/01/12/obama-created-more-jobs-in-2010-than-bush-did-in-8-years/

REALLY SOURCE IS THE ECOCOMMIES why would any sane person even....
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Obama produced unproductive federal jobs, not private sector jobs. Productivity creates wealth whereas government cannot create wealth ( ...except for his crony capitalism minions).

Current Perspective.
So you're saying he couldn't get it done under a fully Republican Congress and only made progress when Democrats controlled the House and there was a split Senate?




Yeah, that trajectory didn't change much.

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**I notice in this graph we generally have a steady increase in revenues despite the Bush tax cuts. -- Just say'n

Again, you don't seem to understand how time work, we are in 2011. Let look at present time context.

You cannot raise taxes enough for the agenda your commie ilk desires.



PERCENTAGE OF GDP

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Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) as of March 2011 via Heritage.



PERCENTAGE OF GDP

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Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) as of March 2011 via Heritage.



PERCENTAGE OF GDP


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Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) as of March 2011 via Heritage.




INFLATION-ADJUSTED TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS (2010)


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Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) as of March 2011 via Heritage.





PERCENT CHANGE OF INFLATION-ADJUSTED DOLLARS (2010)


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Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) as of March 2011 via Heritage.








PERCENTAGE OF THE PRESIDENT'S FY2012 BUDGET


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Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) as of March 2011 via Heritage.


....feel free to rummage though the solid numbers on pretty graphs they have made available for you at Heritage.

Simple truth is.... there in not honest and accurate economic metric that shows Obama and his policies to be a success. In fact he is a failure of historic proportions.



bin Laden “has to be our biggest national security priority.” - Obama

"Obama said"

Undoubtedly the best thing Obama has done for the benefit of United States.



What did the previous two elections make clear to you?
That once your side got power and began to show its true colors that real Americans had a gag-reflex and overwhelming voted conservative in the majority of the nation, a historic election all be told. (liberal infested shit-holes Bering the exception.)


Being the gracious guy I am, let me help you: It’s The Debt, Dummy

[edit] forgot one....


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Now lets see how you respond to the real facts, current facts. Will you respond with; uncitable.cheery.picked.points.of.creative.presentation.from.barking.moonbats.blogspot.com. , will you just cry like a bitch, we are all aware you will not face the truth.

With that said^ you can post whatever fantasy you want, I wont bother to respond to your bullshit. -- You can kill yourself and I really wouldn't even care why.

Always worth repeating: You're a fucking idiot.

:rofl:
 

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
1.9 Million Fewer Americans Have Jobs Today Than When Obama Signed Stimulus
(CNSNews.com) Twenty-eight months after Congress passed President Obama’s signature economic stimulus law, and nearly one year after he declared the summer of 2010 to be “Recovery Summer,” 1.9 million fewer people are employed.

CNSNews


Obama Jokes at Jobs Council: 'Shovel-Ready Was Not as Shovel-Ready as We Expected'
"At this point, Obama smiled and interjected, "Shovel-ready was not as ... uh .. shovel-ready as we expected." The Council, led by GE's Jeffrey Immelt, erupted in laughter.

"hahahaha-haha!!" video


Obama speaks to half-empty fundraiser, heckled by AIDS activist in Florida
The largest fundraiser had a disappointing turnout. Politico reported that only 980 tickets were sold for the event at the 2,200 seat Adrienne Arsht Center. The upper level of the center was completely empty, the second and third levels only partially full, according to politico.

Tickets were sold at a relatively low $44.

Politico via Daily Caller



Even Obama is coming to terms with the fact: he's the worst president in history.

Obama has unified Americans, ....against him.

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Winky

Well-Known Member
Sarah Palin gives good head on the Bus Tour

yeah well Osambo ain't quite done yet Bubby
he can still preside over the next 9-11
 

spike

New Member
I know you love living in the past, because you're fucking idiot that has trouble with the difficulties of teh real world.

Ironic coming from the guy ignoring the facts on the economy under Bush.

Bush isn't in office anymore.

Thankfully. That was the worst president in history.

It is Obama, the current president, who had a the most expensive plan promising fix to economy, he failed miserably.

Back in reality the economy is on an upswing since Bush crashed it.


Stocks under Bush:

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Stocks under Clinton:

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From big gay Rueters...lol:

http://blogs.reuters.com/globalinvesting/2009/01/16/the-end-of-the-bush-stock-market/

It looks like you made the mental failure of finding other places that had used Reuters graphs to prove a point and had attributed them as the source. A rookie mistake.

Or more likely a rookie troll since you can't counter the facts.

And for good measure here's Obama vs. Bush.

Another of spike's untimely, outdated, unsourced graphic traced back to a blogspot post in the comment section of the HuffPo

Looks like you made the same mistake here. To cut short the trolling here's a backup graph straight from Yahoo Finance:

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You can clearly see how it crashes at the end of the Bush term and then greatly recovers once Obama is in office.


Nice source graph that ends in '06

On GDP and economic growth:

"amid the fact that under Bush administration, the U.S economic growth was the lowest since the World War II. Eight years of Bush administration were known for the largest expansion of federal government spending compared to the six preceding presidents. In eight years, President Bush increased discretionary federal outlays by 104 percent compared to 11 percent increase under President Clinton....


...Recently, Center on Budget and Policy Priorities estimated that letting the Bush tax cuts expire would create a net gain of $22 billion in economic activity. Hence, allowing high-income tax cuts expire would, on impact, result in a net gain of $42 billion in economic activity which is about five times the economic stimulus from extending high-income tax cuts."


http://www.citizeneconomists.com/blogs/2010/11/22/bush-tax-cuts-and-economic-growth/

"For the forty years from 1961 to 2000, the president was from the Democratic Party half of the time and from the Republican Party for the rest. Each side had four presidents in those 40 years. During the administrations of the four Democrats, real GDP expanded 4.1% per annum, 1.2 percentage points faster than the average growth during Republican administrations of 2.9% per annum. Growth over the 7.5 years that George W. Bush has been president has averaged just 2.3% per annum.

The Democrat administrations achieved the three fastest rates of growth and four of the top five on that ranking. Real GDP advanced at an annualized rate of 5.2% during the Kennedy years, 5.1% during the Johnson years, and 3.6% when the Clinton administration was in power. GDP rose 3.5% per annum in the Reagan years despite a severe recession in 1981-2. Growth averaged a respectable 3.2% per annum when the Carter administration governed — and yes, some people no doubt were better off in 1980 than 1976 — and the Nixon years experienced growth of 3.0% per annum. In none of these presidential periods was growth substantially less than the 3.4% average pace for the whole second half of the 20th century.

Both Bush presidential periods and the Ford years experienced growth of barely more than 2.0%. The growth rate in the first Bush presidency was 2.1%, identical to the performance of the Ford Administration. The current Bush administration has achieved marginally faster growth of 2.3% per annum. However, that pace has also been substantially less than the long-term trend."


http://currencythoughts.com/2008/09/26/us-gdp-growth-under-different-presidencies/


You're linking a post that starts "Here's an interesting article". Also the quote you quoted isn't on the page you linked. Are you really having so much trouble that you fail at basic trolling like this? :facepalm:





let's just put that "old record" into perspective for you...lets come up to present time and look at unemployment.

HuffPo says:Nearly Half Of America Says U.S. Nearing Great Depression: CNN Poll


Lets see an up-to-date graph of Obama's "unexpected" employment growth.

akcswww.jpg


Source: Market Ticker.

There is no "perspective" unless we put it in context. Which we can do quite handily with this:

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Obama produced unproductive federal jobs, not private sector jobs.

This is a lie as we can see from simply reading the graph above. See where it says "Private Sector". Get with it.




Predictions? That don't really have anything to do with Obama?


**I notice in this graph we generally have a steady increase in revenues despite the Bush tax cuts. -- Just say'n

Again, you don't seem to understand how time work, we are in 2011.

See how they dip way under spending right after the cuts?


Let look at present time context.


Sure, this is what they caused:

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....feel free to rummage though the solid numbers on pretty graphs they have made available for you at Heritage.

Most of these are irrelevant to the current discussion and of course they're from Heritage. Not exactly reliable.

Simple truth is.... there in not honest and accurate economic metric that shows Obama and his policies to be a success. In fact he is a failure of historic proportions.

Actually Bush was a failure of historic proportions and it's been pretty easy to demonstrate the vast improvement under Obama in all these key areas.





"Obama said"

Undoubtedly the best thing Obama has done for the benefit of United States.

That once your side got power and began to show its true colors that real Americans had a gag-reflex and overwhelming voted conservative in the majority of the nation, a historic election all be told. (liberal infested shit-holes Bering the exception.)

So by that logic once the Bush administration showed it's true colors real Americans had a gag-reflex and overwhelming voted liberal in two consecutive elections in the majority of the nation, a historic elections all be told. (conservative infested shit-holes Bering the exception.)


So to summarize Obama and Clinton fared far better than Bush in just about all economic indicators. You have been unable to face clear facts, tried to troll and mis-attribute sources, and failed to refute even one of my claim with facts of your own.

I pretty much thought that's how it would go with some child temper tantrums thrown in and you behaved predictably. You even declared you're running away after this because you knew this shit you tried wouldn't hold up for a second. Pretty sad.
 

Winky

Well-Known Member
Sarah Palin is the anti-christ and is destroying the world

When you two get a room
don't bother making a video tape
 

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member


Insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results. You are clearly insane (For that matter I guess I'm am too, expecting you to have the ability exercise cognitive honesty and learn about the real world).

You're putting out the same crap that represents an outdated perversion of the truths held in the larger picture. Blogs, "eco-facts", commie propaganda and untimely selected clips of creative truths.

I'll try not to go into Dodd, Frank and the housing collapse or the over regulation and federal take-overs of large chunks of the economy. I also try to avoid going into the disastrous energy policies you guys bring to the table. Let maybe avoid the two new wars Obama got us into.

With that said: Yeah Bush screwed the pooch in many aspects, but he's gone now. You can not let go of the past, the DNC said today that the dimwits own the economy.

Whats REALLY funny is that you complain about Bush policies and then you defend those same policies on steroid under Obama.

Here is where we are, learn to deal with it.Before a shoot the other day I had ~1/2 hour of 1:1 time with guy over coffee, I got some good insight to the federal situation. After coffee our families shared a table for breakfast, then I listened to his presentation and +hour of questions, mostly about the economy. I've got a pretty good grasp on whats going on right now.


Again I'll repeat this: There is no current major economic metric that shows anything other than Obama's policies are a failure.

Grow the fuck up dope-head.
 

2minkey

bootlicker
yes, all your soundbytes are right on. and all of spike's are shitza. you got it all figgured out.

woe is you and your economy. how much have you been impacted? this so-called recession hasn't changed my life at all.
 

spike

New Member
Insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results. You are clearly insane

Yeah, it is probably pretty crazy to keep presenting facts to you over and over and expect you to be able to debate like an adult instead of running from them and sticking your head in the sand.


You're putting out the same crap that represents an outdated perversion of the truths held in the larger picture. Blogs, "eco-facts", commie propaganda and untimely selected clips of creative truths.

I'm presenting verifiable facts from sources like Yahoo Finance, Reuters, Bureau of Labor statistics, and the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

You simply can't argue against these truths so you don't. You just make up weak-assed excuses and lies to avoid them. You somehow can't even look at at verifiable numbers and accept that you're wrong.

I'll try not to go into Dodd, Frank and the housing collapse or the over regulation and federal take-overs of large chunks of the economy. I also try to avoid going into the disastrous energy policies you guys bring to the table. Let maybe avoid the two new wars Obama got us into.

Yeah, that would be a pretty transparent attempt to change the subject from what we were talking about in desperation.

With that said: Yeah Bush screwed the pooch in many aspects, but he's gone now.

Damn, I bet it was really hard to be forced to say that even with the disclaimer.

Whats REALLY funny is that you complain about Bush policies and then you defend those same policies on steroid under Obama.

What policies of Bush's did I complain about in this thread that are the same under Obama?

Here is where we are, learn to deal with it.

I think the point of your links is that we are still in recovery from Bush's crash? Yeah, we know that.

Before a shoot the other day I had ~1/2 hour of 1:1 time with guy over coffee

That is great that you had some one on one time with a guy. Good for you. Not sure how that is relevant.

Again I'll repeat this: There is no current major economic metric that shows anything other than Obama's policies are a failure.

Except the many metrics that we've already covered. Like:

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ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
That is great that you had some one on one time with a guy. Good for you. Not sure how that is relevant.
The guy I talked with 1:1 over coffee Saturday morning is the house majority whip, he knows a little about whats going on.


Except the many metrics that we've already covered. Like:

failed stimulus, crony capitalism, unnatural market forces that WILL correct

.

Great, it artificially held is ground...sorta. I guess all the references comparing the current economy to the great depression have eluded you. That the American people are suffering the likes that haven't been seen since the great depression and are about to get worse.

....lets see what happens now that it can't be propped up anymore. Maybe you'll get what you want, a complete collapse and then you'll cry for national socialism... or maybe we'll just have to fight about it.

Like I said, you cannot honesty present any metric that show an economic success by this administration. Obama is fucktardedentotus.

Eat-a-dick, cry more commie boi.
:brush::crying4:


 
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