Reagan's Budget Director Opposes Extending Bush Tax Cuts

spike

New Member
I don't know offhand but if you care about the deficit shrinking then we should let those tax cuts expire that were a huge part in running it up in the first place.
 

Winky

Well-Known Member
Blame Bush Tax Cuts? Oh please

Sad thing is, you actually believe that?
What facts from reality do you use to support
such an apparently false assumption?
Now who’s making crap up?

That is not unlike someone that is spending
more than they are making saying:
the reason I’m going further in debt
is that I’m not making enough money!

Rather than realizing they are spending more
than they are making.

I’m still waiting on the Obarry deficit numbers.
Go on I’ve seen you cut and paste with the best of them.
 

spike

New Member
Re: Blame Bush Tax Cuts? Oh please

Sad thing is, you actually believe that?
What facts from reality do you use to support
such an apparently false assumption?

It's an obviously true assumption.

CBO Data Show Tax Cuts Have Played Much Larger Role than Domestic Spending Increases in Fueling the Deficit

Now who’s making crap up?

You are

That is not unlike someone that is spending
more than they are making saying:
the reason I’m going further in debt
is that I’m not making enough money!

Yes, you can either make more money or spend less. Bush did neither so he ran up a huge deficit.
 

MrBishop

Well-Known Member
Look into JFK, Reagan & Bush2.

Tax cuts raise revenue.

Congress failed to cut spending. Neither Bush, nor Clinton nor Obama had a hand in that. Pleaase, read the Constitution.

The tax on capital gains directly affects investment decisions

I love this guy

Deficits increased after Reagan tax cuts, as it did under Dubya. Under JFK it's harder to see because the Vietnam war costs were monetized (hidden).

Tax-cuts are not self-financing...that is, if you cut 20% of taxes, don't expect spending to increase to the point where it will cover the 20% loss. That just doesn't happen.

Read more here if you can stomach economic-talk
 

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
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MrBishop

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http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article20328.html

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On one of this past Sunday's morning political talk shows, I heard a congressman say that the runaway federal government spending had to stop. Congressman, sir, although the spending continues to increase, the rate of growth in that spending has slowed enormously. In the 12 months ended May 2010, the accumulated spending by the federal government totaled $3.437 trillion, enough to keep the late Senator Dirksen spinning in his grave for near eternity. Although an admittedly high level, this 12-month accumulated total federal spending was only 2.6% higher than the 12-month accumulated total federal spending for May 2009 (see Chart 1).


This is quite a deceleration in growth from the 15.3% registered for the 12 months ended 2009 vs. 2008, near the trough of the last recession. Moreover, the 2.6% year-over-year growth in the 12-month accumulated total federal outlays in May 2010 is considerably lower than the 8.4% year-over-year growth in the 12-month accumulated total federal outlays in May 2006. Why do I mention May 2006? Because at that time, the congressman's political party controlled Congress and the White House. Congressman, heal thyself!

At the same time that the growth in federal outlays has slowed dramatically, the rate of contraction in federal revenues also has slowed dramatically. The year-over-year percent change in the 12-month accumulated federal revenues in May 2010 was minus 6.6%, a slower rate of contraction than the 13.6% contraction for May 2009 (see Chart 2).

Why the slowdown in that rate of growth in federal spending and the rate of contraction in federal revenues? The economic recovery, for one thing. As the economy started to grow again in the second half of 2009, the rate of growth in government transfer payments to households, such as unemployment insurance benefits, has slowed sharply (see Chart 3). Also, as the economic recovery has set in, corporate profits and, thus, corporate tax receipts have picked up (see Chart 4). Again on the spending side, there has not been a repeat of the $500 billion+ in TARP expenditures in 2008.
 

Winky

Well-Known Member
fuc all that do you realize
Osama's deficit is 1.4 trillion?
he's trying to grind the country down
for the commie take over
and you are cheering him on
cuz that's what commies do
 

spike

New Member
he's trying to grind the country down
for the commie take over
and you are cheering him on
cuz that's what commies do

That's pretty funny. :laugh:

Do you know though that there's actually people out there that believe that even though facts to the contrary are so easy to find?

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spike

New Member
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From December 2007 to July 2009 – the last year of the Bush second term and the first six months of the Obama presidency, before his policies could affect the economy – private sector employment crashed from 115,574,000 jobs to 107,778,000 jobs. Employment continued to fall, however, for the next six months, reaching a low of 107,107,000 jobs in December of 2009. So, out of 8,467,000 private sector jobs lost in this dismal cycle, 7,796,000 of those jobs or 92 percent were lost on the Republicans’ watch or under the sway of their policies. Some 671,000 additional jobs were lost as the stimulus and other moves by the administration kicked in, but 630,000 jobs then came back in the following six months. The tally, to date: Mr. Obama can be held accountable for the net loss of 41,000 jobs (671,000 – 630,000), while the Republicans should be held responsible for the net losses of 7,796,000 jobs.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/08/who_can_we_blame_for_job_losse.html
 

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
Well your blog graph by the lefty conspirator was created by Ezra Klein on his PC with blind leftist faith

As for your other graph. When you confiscate 100K from an employer who produces he will have to unemploy people to pay his taxes. More unemployed people and less production makes for less taxes and more public burden.

The fact is people who move large sums of money pay much more in other taxes than you ever will.

I'm not surprised you are fooled by partisan hacks and liars. You my friend are a tool of propaganda in perfect form.

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ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member




You would have to be capable of intelligent thought for that to happen. And you're not.


You are a die hard commie, you'll support Obama and the commie agenda despite the destruction of our great nation. -- Why do you suppose the majority of Americans have no faith in Obama and his commie/fascist/subversive administration?

You're a well trained tool at best.


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spike

New Member
You would have to be capable of intelligent thought for that to happen. And you're not.

They're graphs with data on them. You were unable to refute them and have resorted to your normal trolling instead of any intelligent thought.

You are a die hard commie, you'll support Obama and the commie agenda despite the destruction of our great nation. -- Why do you suppose the majority of Americans have no faith in Obama and his commie/fascist/subversive administration?

You're a well trained tool at best.

And more trolling. You're so predictable. This must be frustrating for you.
 
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