2minkey
bootlicker
new belgium brewery (ft. collins) is fantastic. and they're nice people, too.
and you do promise you won't try to plook me if i meet you for a beer, right?
Recession? We don' need no steenkeen recession!
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new belgium brewery (ft. collins) is fantastic. and they're nice people, too.
and you do promise you won't try to plook me if i meet you for a beer, right?
jimpeel
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new belgium brewery (ft. collins) is fantastic. and they're nice people, too.
and you do promise you won't try to plook me if i meet you for a beer, right?
Not unless you are a post op tranny.
Odell's is in Ft. Collins as well.
http://www.odellbrewing.com/
MrBishop
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Never been to Colorado...but ya never know. I may take you up on it one day. I gotta go to Wichita first (standing invite), and visit SnP's southern fortress as well.
As for microbreweries... we have some serious competition up here in Canuckistan, especially in Montreal. Just finished the Beer Festival last weekend.... dayum!
This weekend..Grand Prix
MrBishop
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MrBishop
Well-Known Member
No harm, no foul.
jimpeel
Well-Known Member
Never been to Colorado...but ya never know. I may take you up on it one day. I gotta go to Wichita first (standing invite), and visit SnP's southern fortress as well.
As for microbreweries... we have some serious competition up here in Canuckistan, especially in Montreal. Just finished the Beer Festival last weekend.... dayum!
This weekend..Grand Prix
jimpeel
Well-Known Member
Once again, better than expected. What's with that? Are the economists hoping the economy will tank?
My favorite part:
How many countries on this Earth would be absolutely ecstatic to have a 5.5% unemployment rate?
http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/economy/stimulus-checks-bolster-retail-sales/
My favorite part:
How many countries on this Earth would be absolutely ecstatic to have a 5.5% unemployment rate?
http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/economy/stimulus-checks-bolster-retail-sales/
spike
New Member
Why would you make something up like that? Why are you and Peel in denial about the state of the economy?
spike
New Member
See, you just made that up. That's what I'm talking about. You probably only pay attention when something surprising happens.
The economy is going into the crapper.
chcr
Too cute for words
When the growth of the economy is actually negative, that's not a recession.
Inkara1
Well-Known Member
Having a fiancee that works the returns desk at Wal-Mart helps give me a little insight on what these stimulus checks are going for. Not HDTVs pr PS3s or things like that, but new underwear, name-brand shampoo instead of the dollar store stuff, etc. In other words, stuff that people used to be able to routinely afford but now need help from the government to buy because it cost $55 to fill up the Kia to drive to Wal-Mart. Lori spent a big chunk of her stimulus check on an eye exam and contact lenses for the new prescription
Hey, Jim... what have you seen more of lately coming through your line?
As for a few other things...
I also love how you didn't pay attention to the point about unemployment rising the fastest in a month it has in the last 22 years. That would be 1986, well before the stock market crash of 1988 and well before the recession in the early 1990s that led to the election of Bill Clinton because he promised change.
Also, what you cut out included this: Highlighting the pressures on the job market, the Labor Department reported Thursday that new applications for jobless benefits rose by 25,000 last week to 384,000, the highest level since late March. The sentence immediately following that, in which it was said that it was a bigger increase than analysts were expecting, you left in. That would seem to undermine your point, which was, I think, that analysts/economists masturbate thinking about the economy getting worse. Those two paragraphs are actually saying that unemployment was worse than the analysts thought it would be, instead of the analysts blowing it out of proportion. The only question is whether your reading comprehension needs help or whether you're trying to selectively read your own sources to make a point while discounting the possibility that the rest of us might click your links and read for ourselves.
I should also point out that the article used "jumped" (which you bolded) to describe a half-percent increase in unemployment, but used "soared" (which you ignored) to describe a one-percent increase in sales.
My next question is what you will say when August rolls around, the last of the stimulus checks have already been mailed and spent and all the major retailers st5art suffering sales drops instead of sales increases.
Hey, Jim... what have you seen more of lately coming through your line?
As for a few other things...
"Better than expected" is different than "better than hoped." Unless you think economists masturbate while thinking about higher unemployment claims or something.
I'm sure there are many... Kenya and Somalia come to mind. Really, though, you make it sound like the economy is fantastic in other nations with higher unemployment rates. News flash: individual nations' economies are not separate. If things suck here, they're going to suck in Great Britain, Japan, Germany, etc. as well. Further, unemployment is not the sole factor in whether the economy has gone to shit or not.
I also love how you didn't pay attention to the point about unemployment rising the fastest in a month it has in the last 22 years. That would be 1986, well before the stock market crash of 1988 and well before the recession in the early 1990s that led to the election of Bill Clinton because he promised change.
Also, what you cut out included this: Highlighting the pressures on the job market, the Labor Department reported Thursday that new applications for jobless benefits rose by 25,000 last week to 384,000, the highest level since late March. The sentence immediately following that, in which it was said that it was a bigger increase than analysts were expecting, you left in. That would seem to undermine your point, which was, I think, that analysts/economists masturbate thinking about the economy getting worse. Those two paragraphs are actually saying that unemployment was worse than the analysts thought it would be, instead of the analysts blowing it out of proportion. The only question is whether your reading comprehension needs help or whether you're trying to selectively read your own sources to make a point while discounting the possibility that the rest of us might click your links and read for ourselves.
I should also point out that the article used "jumped" (which you bolded) to describe a half-percent increase in unemployment, but used "soared" (which you ignored) to describe a one-percent increase in sales.
My next question is what you will say when August rolls around, the last of the stimulus checks have already been mailed and spent and all the major retailers st5art suffering sales drops instead of sales increases.
2minkey
bootlicker
better go buy a lotto tickee. gonz is actually correct.
SouthernN'Proud
Southern Discomfort
Ours went to medical bills and stuff that was getting behind because of medical bills. The only economic stimulus we provided was for other people's benefit. I'm betting we weren't alone.
chcr
Too cute for words
I understand that minkey. You can have a recession and still have positive economic growth.
2minkey
bootlicker
i thought a recession, by definition, was two successive quarters of negative growth. meaning contraction, not just a slower rate of positive growth.
it's been a while since my macroecon class. and the professor used to play in his beard with his pointer while lecturing. it was very odd. and distracting.
it's been a while since my macroecon class. and the professor used to play in his beard with his pointer while lecturing. it was very odd. and distracting.
chcr
Too cute for words
You're right, that is the common definition. I think I got mine from the eighties recession (when in fact the US had an increase in GDP as well, I believe). The S&L problem contributed a lot to that but by this definition that wasn't a recession either. Note that I don't think we're in a recession now, but I do think that we're in danger of falling into one given the global economic climate and the current condition of the banking industry.