Sexual assault at Duke University
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SouthernN'Proud
Southern Discomfort
This whole story has turned into race baiting, if it wasn't that to begin with. A select segment of Durham's population seems to like TV cameras. This same segment also seems to line up on one side of the issue, strictly by race.
Last I heard, no DNA matched any athlete on the lacrosse team. Yet the coach resigned. ESPN reported that the first officer on the scene after the alleged incident was called in catagorized it as a [paraphrase]drunk woman, passed out[/paraphrase]. This was communicated before there was any reason on either side to make it a racial issue. It's as close to an unbiased testimony as we are likely to hear. Hence, it carries a little weight in my mind.
If these athletes are guilty, I sincerely hope they are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
If they are not guilty, I hope this woman faces 47 counts of Felony Filing False Police Reports.
Either way, I'm ready for Jesse to crawl back under whatever rock he had been hiding. If he wants to send her to college, by all means do so. Quietly and privately. It's his money.
Last I heard, no DNA matched any athlete on the lacrosse team. Yet the coach resigned. ESPN reported that the first officer on the scene after the alleged incident was called in catagorized it as a [paraphrase]drunk woman, passed out[/paraphrase]. This was communicated before there was any reason on either side to make it a racial issue. It's as close to an unbiased testimony as we are likely to hear. Hence, it carries a little weight in my mind.
If these athletes are guilty, I sincerely hope they are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
If they are not guilty, I hope this woman faces 47 counts of Felony Filing False Police Reports.
Either way, I'm ready for Jesse to crawl back under whatever rock he had been hiding. If he wants to send her to college, by all means do so. Quietly and privately. It's his money.
SouthernN'Proud
Southern Discomfort
Two lacrosse players indicted, arrested
For those perhaps unfamiliar with the system...
An indictment is not a conviction. It is merely a finding by a grand jury that enough evidence exists to convince them that a crime occurred, and that the charged person(s) may have been the guilty parties. The only evidence presented is from the prosecutor, and they only present what they think is barely enough to get the indictment. No defense is allowed.
Now the two down sides. I don't like the fact that these things happen, but they do.
1. Grand juries are not trial juries; hence, they are not sequestered from publicity. High profile cases...community members serving on the grand jury...there is some amount of pressure to indict for a number of reasons. That is not saying that I think these athletes are innocent. Just a sad fact of the system.
2. It's re-election time in Durham for the District Attorney. Connect your own dots from there.
Again, if they're guilty, convict 'em. If not, charge her as appropriate and convict her. If this ends up as I expect, with no convictions either way, then justice has not been served in any fashion, and at least one side of the allegations has succeeded in manipulating the system for personal gain.
For those perhaps unfamiliar with the system...
An indictment is not a conviction. It is merely a finding by a grand jury that enough evidence exists to convince them that a crime occurred, and that the charged person(s) may have been the guilty parties. The only evidence presented is from the prosecutor, and they only present what they think is barely enough to get the indictment. No defense is allowed.
Now the two down sides. I don't like the fact that these things happen, but they do.
1. Grand juries are not trial juries; hence, they are not sequestered from publicity. High profile cases...community members serving on the grand jury...there is some amount of pressure to indict for a number of reasons. That is not saying that I think these athletes are innocent. Just a sad fact of the system.
2. It's re-election time in Durham for the District Attorney. Connect your own dots from there.
Again, if they're guilty, convict 'em. If not, charge her as appropriate and convict her. If this ends up as I expect, with no convictions either way, then justice has not been served in any fashion, and at least one side of the allegations has succeeded in manipulating the system for personal gain.
SouthernN'Proud
Southern Discomfort
Wow....just...wow...
I won't ask the question.
I won't ask the question.
SouthernN'Proud
Southern Discomfort
Yeah, right.
Being on bond when you commit a new crime is an automatic enhancement factor. Bond could have legally and should have morally been denied.
The moral of the story: In Durham, you can be a gangsta killer dope dealer all day long, just don't go to a lacrosse team party in an election year.
Inkara1
Well-Known Member
I got an e-mail concerning this to my work e-mail account, since I'm a sports reporter. It was spam, of course, but it was talking about an interview opportunity with an expert on the case. The funny part, at least to me, was that it's from someone with the last name of Kocks. I just found that interesting, given what the case was about.
Lord, I apologize for that...
Lord, I apologize for that...
SouthernN'Proud
Southern Discomfort
The plot thickens
Some of the "highlights"...
Amazing how time, publicity, community pressure, Jesse Jackson handing out scholarships, and rent coming due have a way of making people doubt things, ain't it?
The stripper with a rap sheet is concerned about character issues. Do tell.
So now they did it, you just aren't sure who did what. Fascinating. She'll make an ace witness on the stand.
Watch that credibility soar.
But she's worried about an attorney's credibility. Nothing says "....the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth..." quite like embezzlement conviction, followed by violating the probation that kept you out of jail for it.
This close to the election, I'm sure he didn't oppose it. What was Durham's racial breakdown again?
Do y'all really need me to spell that one out for you? Hey Jesse, got another hundred grand lying about?
No, of course not. You're such an honest, credible thief. No way would you spin anything to your own advantage or anything like that.
Too bad, so sad. That whole ruining your college experience, smearing your name across the media for months, getting you suspended from school, having you arrested, costing the coach his job of 16 years, poisoning your professional resumes...hate that. But I'd like to feed my daughter, and these 31 year old tits ain't what they used to be ya know...
At last, we arrive at the motivation.
They called her a name. Not a crime. Not ideal behavior for certain, but not a crime requiring $400,000 bond. Each.
If these young men are not convicted of raping the dancer, I hope to God this same district attorney files charges for Filing False Reports against both of these dancers, and adds the Hate Crime enhancement factor to the prosecution. Their motives are clearly race based. That, I am told, is a hate crime. If it flows one way, it should flow the other. But it won't, because it don't.
Congratulations, America. Enjoy your new enlightenment. If you're allowed to. I'll be watching from the sticks, where we still use common sense as a barometer for words like credibility, character, crime, justice, and punishment.
Some of the "highlights"...
Amazing how time, publicity, community pressure, Jesse Jackson handing out scholarships, and rent coming due have a way of making people doubt things, ain't it?
The stripper with a rap sheet is concerned about character issues. Do tell.
So now they did it, you just aren't sure who did what. Fascinating. She'll make an ace witness on the stand.
Watch that credibility soar.
But she's worried about an attorney's credibility. Nothing says "....the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth..." quite like embezzlement conviction, followed by violating the probation that kept you out of jail for it.
This close to the election, I'm sure he didn't oppose it. What was Durham's racial breakdown again?
Do y'all really need me to spell that one out for you? Hey Jesse, got another hundred grand lying about?
No, of course not. You're such an honest, credible thief. No way would you spin anything to your own advantage or anything like that.
Too bad, so sad. That whole ruining your college experience, smearing your name across the media for months, getting you suspended from school, having you arrested, costing the coach his job of 16 years, poisoning your professional resumes...hate that. But I'd like to feed my daughter, and these 31 year old tits ain't what they used to be ya know...
At last, we arrive at the motivation.
They called her a name. Not a crime. Not ideal behavior for certain, but not a crime requiring $400,000 bond. Each.
If these young men are not convicted of raping the dancer, I hope to God this same district attorney files charges for Filing False Reports against both of these dancers, and adds the Hate Crime enhancement factor to the prosecution. Their motives are clearly race based. That, I am told, is a hate crime. If it flows one way, it should flow the other. But it won't, because it don't.
Congratulations, America. Enjoy your new enlightenment. If you're allowed to. I'll be watching from the sticks, where we still use common sense as a barometer for words like credibility, character, crime, justice, and punishment.
SouthernN'Proud
Southern Discomfort
HomeLAN said:
Without a doubt.
