Why the AZ law will be held to be constitutional

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
Yep, it's just a big fucking waste of money that often is built on private land against the owners will.

Whats a waste of money is free welfare, medi-caid/medi-cal, and other benefits offered to illegal aliens for commie votes. all funded by Americans tax payer. I'd rather pay for a fence and turrets and keep the criminal out.

GTFO out my nation and wallet, fix your own shit-hole country.
 

spike

New Member
Whats a waste of money is free welfare, medi-caid/medi-cal, and other benefits offered to illegal aliens for commie votes. all funded by Americans tax payer. I'd rather pay for a fence and turrets and keep the criminal out.

GTFO out my nation and wallet, fix your own shit-hole country.

See here's where you could use some facts...

"The fact that illegal immigrants pay taxes at all will come as news to many Americans. A stunning two-thirds of illegal immigrants pay Medicare, Social Security and personal income taxes. Yet, nativists like Congressman Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., have popularized the notion that illegal aliens are a colossal drain on the nation's hospitals, schools and welfare programs — consuming services that they don't pay for.

In reality, the 1996 welfare reform bill disqualified illegal immigrants from nearly all means-tested government programs including food stamps, housing assistance, Medicaid and Medicare-funded hospitalization. The only services that illegals can still get are emergency medical care and K-12 education."


http://reason.org/news/show/122411.html

But regardless, even if they could find a way to get these services it doesn't make the fence anymore of a stupid waste of money that would often be infringing on people's private property.
 

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
You really believe the stupidest shit you find on the internet.

Illegal aliens are a burden on our society. .....end of story
 

Gonz

molṑn labé
Staff member
Infringing on personal property....sounds like emminent domain (legal) or easement (also legal)
 

spike

New Member
You really believe the stupidest shit you find on the internet.

I find facts while you're content making up fake stuff.

Illegal aliens are a burden on our society. .....end of story

Not nearly the end of the story they're a drain in some areas and a benefit in others.

For example they pay a lot of taxes that fund services they can't use and they sure keep produce prices low.
 

2minkey

bootlicker
Illegal aliens are a burden on our society. .....end of story

we've got far larger problems than illegal aliens. maybe you should focus on those. i know they're not as glorious and identity/manliness-confirming as picking on the guy working in the taco truck, but you gotta think with your rational economic brain rather than letting your inner midget baby take over.
 

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
Good Idea Minxy,

Let just keep ignoring some of the simpler issues while we watch the rest go to hell.

Many of the other issues are becoming known to the unwashed masses. Have you noticed how many people are backing the Mess-I-ah-made-in-chief these days? Mainly it's the tru-blue commies. "Goddamn America"
 

valkyrie

Well-Known Member
Open border. Police unable to question or ask for visitor pass. Hell yea.
The borders between our country and our two neighbors are not controlled by the local police force. The US borders are controlled and patrolled by a the US Border Patrol. It is an enforcement agency under the US Customs and Border Protection which is a component of the Department of Homeland Security.

The More You Know.....

To be clear on this ruling. There is nothing in it to infringe on the powers of the federal enforcement agency responsible for this task.
 

Winky

Well-Known Member
No beanners

inner midget, baby
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valkyrie

Well-Known Member
Sheesh, Winky! That took forever to finish loading. *wags finger*

Who the fuck is that 12 year old anyway?
 

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
Once Homeland security fails at its job and illegal makes into our cities, it becomes a local problem clearly falling in the jurisdiction of the locals.
 

MrBishop

Well-Known Member
Once Homeland security fails at its job and illegal makes into our cities, it becomes a local problem clearly falling in the jurisdiction of the locals.

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Like this guy?
PHOENIX – Minutemen groups, a surge in Border Patrol agents, and a tough new immigration law aren't enough for a reputed neo-Nazi who's now leading a militia in the Arizona desert.

Jason "J.T." Ready is taking matters into his own hands, declaring war on "narco-terrorists" and keeping an eye out for illegal immigrants. So far, he says his patrols have only found a few border crossers who were given water and handed over to the Border Patrol. Once, they also found a decaying body in a wash, and alerted authorities.

But local law enforcement are nervous given that Ready's group is heavily armed and identifies with the National Socialist Movement, an organization that believes only non-Jewish, white heterosexuals should be American citizens and that everyone who isn't white should leave the country "peacefully or by force."

"We're not going to sit around and wait for the government anymore," Ready said. "This is what our founding fathers did."

An escalation of civilian border watches have taken root in Arizona in recent years, including the Minutemen movement. Various groups patrol the desert on foot, horseback and in airplanes and report suspicious activity to the Border Patrol, and generally, they have not caused problems for law enforcement.

But Ready, a 37-year-old ex-Marine, is different. He and his friends are outfitted with military fatigues, body armor and gas masks, and carry assault rifles. Ready takes offense at the term "neo-Nazi," but admits he identifies with the National Socialist Movement.

"These are explicit Nazis," said Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Project. "These are people who wear swastikas on their sleeves."

Ready is a reflection of the anger over illegal immigration in Arizona. Gov. Jan Brewer signed a controversial new immigration law in April, which requires police, while enforcing other laws, to question a person's immigration status if officers have a reasonable suspicion that the person is in the country illegally.
But Brewer hasn't done enough, Ready said, and he's not satisfied with President Barack Obama's decision to beef up security at the border.

Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu said there haven't been any incidents with the group as they patrol his jurisdiction, which includes several busy immigrant smuggling corridors. But Babeu is concerned because an untrained group acting without the authority of the law could cause "extreme problems," and put themselves and others in danger.

"I'm not inviting them. And in fact, I'd rather they not come," Babeu said. "Especially those who espouse hatred or bigotry such as his."

Law enforcement officials said patrols like Ready's could undercut the work of the thousands of officers on duty every day across the border, especially if they try to enforce the law themselves in carrying out vigilante justice.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100717/ap_on_re_us/us_neo_nazi_patrols
 

ResearchMonkey

Well-Known Member
I don't like their politics being socialist, your side, I do appreciate their resolve in protesting the borders.

There are plenty of good minutemen walking the southern borders. Hey look, here are some more veterans who walk the border.

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You would shit-brix during a real war on the North American Continent, like those that made america the free nation it is today.

Freedom isn't a welfare program.
 

spike

New Member
Many of the other issues are becoming known to the unwashed masses. Have you noticed how many people are backing the Mess-I-ah-made-in-chief these days? Mainly it's the tru-blue commies. "Goddamn America"

A hell of a lot more than how many were backing Bush when he set that dismal record. It was only the tru-blue fascists still brainwashed.
 

valkyrie

Well-Known Member
Once Homeland security fails at its job and illegal makes into our cities, it becomes a local problem clearly falling in the jurisdiction of the locals.
Only if they break the law. Immigration is still the jurisdiction of Homeland Security. This doesn't change that. This is not my opinion, this is federal law. If you want that changed, then petition for a bill. Otherwise, this AZ law is going to get holes shot in it. Simple as that.
 

valkyrie

Well-Known Member
"Freedom costs a buck-oh-five" :laugh:

....and a bunch of neo nazis.
Ah, hells yeah... you know it wets my panties when someone references Team America World Police.

Freedom isn't free
It costs folks like you and me
And if we don't all chip in
We'll never pay that bill
Freedom isn't free
Now there's a hefty fuckin' fee
And if you don't throw in your buck o' five
Who will?
 
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