Your concerns for the 2004 presidency

[HeXp£Øi±]

What are some of the issues you're most concerned about when thinking about our next president? Obviously Iraq will be on the top of the list for many of us. For myself however there is just no light at the end of the tunnle where this is concerned. I don't see any individual running that has a logical plan for policy concerning Iraq. Other issues i'm growingly concerned over are the department of homeland security and the patriot act. New disturbing trends that i've seen include the fact that now airport security personal can arrest people for not so much as looking at them the wrong way. Then there's the fact that we're now holding thousands of so-called terrorists and denying them any rights whatsoever. If there are four thousand of these and to be conservative if only 1% are innocent that means that fourty of these people are innocent. Can you imagine the hell the people are going through? Did i mention that i don't trust Tom Ridge as far as i can throw him?

 

[chcr]

I'm concerned that an intelligent, qualified candidate cannot possibly be elected (not that I'm in any way certain that there is one). It also concerns me that the country is even more divided now than it was at the last election (if you'll remember, neither candidate carried 50% of the popular vote). I'm most concerned though, about the way so many Americans blithely give up freedoms because government officials with a separate agenda tell them it's necessary.

 

[Squiggy]

My biggest fear for the election is that the democrats will defeat themselves and leave bush in...If we get past that, it will take a whole lot to clean up the mess that Bush has us in. He has alienated most of the world and its going to be hard to repair much of it. Iraq should be handed over to the UN with our pledge of support and we should bring our troops home. We are nothing more than antagonists in that region now.

 

[Puma]

It concerns me that the elections have been rigged by Diebold and we no longer have a democracy as long as we sit here and are unable to do anything for fear of being put in the consentration camps with the terrorists for breaking the patriot act or the new copyright laws. It also concerns me that there is a multi billion dollar government organisation or two that is prepared to do just that.

 

[chcr]

It concerns me that the elections have been rigged by Diebold and we no longer have a democracy as long as we sit here and are unable to do anything for fear of being put in the consentration camps with the terrorists for breaking the patriot act or the new copyright laws. It also concerns me that there is a multi billion dollar government organisation or two that is prepared to do just that.

It never was a democracy, it used to be a republic though. Not in my lifetime, but it was once.

 

[Puma]

Which leaves us with a clear solution, Civil war baby! Put Bush back in power, he knows how to start wars!

 

[Gonz]

It never was a democracy, it used to be a republic though. Not in my lifetime, but it was once.

Then you want a true conservative in office. The liberals want us to become a socialist nation & the Republicans want, well, I'm no longer sure what they want. A true Goldwater conservative would put the republic back on track, lower social spending, decrease taxes & minimize the federal government. Keep the politicians out of our pocket & we will prosper beyond belief.

 

[Squiggy]

Then you want a true conservative in office. The liberals want us to become a socialist nation & the Republicans want, well, I'm no longer sure what they want. A true Goldwater conservative would put the republic back on track, lower social spending, decrease taxes & minimize the federal government. Keep the politicians out of our pocket & we will prosper beyond belief.

Thats the same promises that Bush made ...and hes spent every cent he could ....Republicans have always been the bigger spenders. Just look at Daddy Bush and Reagen...Who ya trying to kid?

 

[Gonz]

Reagan had a promise from the Democrat controlled congress to cut spending & THEY increased it.

Bush 1 was a fool & Bush 2 doesn't appear to be conservative (look at the Medicare plan)

 

[Squiggy]

Ummm..Yeah...It was the democrats in congress that wanted star-wars.... Do you realise we never had the term 'homeless' until Reagen. He created them by throwing the Viet Nam vets off UE in the middle of that economic mess. If they're all going to spend the money, at least give me a democrat that will spend itr on Americans instead of a third world country where his friends have business interests...

 

[Puma]

In other words, liberals want to narrow the poverty gap and republicans want to widen it. Liberals want to put the money into the government while republicans want to give it to the richest people in the country. So rich people back republicans(just look at bush's campaign fund raising so far) so they won't be so heavily taxed and will get good benefits and poor people don't have a party that will actually help them and 90% of America is repeatedly screwed.

 

[Green Stickers]

Ummm..Yeah...It was the democrats in congress that wanted star-wars.... Do you realise we never had the term 'homeless' until Reagen. He created them by throwing the Viet Nam vets off UE in the middle of that economic mess. If they're all going to spend the money, at least give me a democrat that will spend itr on Americans instead of a third world country where his friends have business interests...

i'll drink to that.

i don't know what i'll do if bush wins 04.

 

[Puma]

I do. Civil war, baby!

 

[BeardofPants]

i'll drink to that.

i don't know what i'll do if bush wins 04.

Fuck that, just move to NZ, where our PM can take potshots at him for ya.

 

[Ms Ann Thrope]

well, as was mentioned in another thread, if they do reinstitute the draft, maybe people will wake up out of their complacency

 

[Gonz]

In other words, liberals want to narrow the poverty gap and republicans want to widen it. Liberals want to put the money into the government while republicans want to give it to the richest people in the country. So rich people back republicans(just look at bush's campaign fund raising so far) so they won't be so heavily taxed and will get good benefits and poor people don't have a party that will actually help them and 90% of America is repeatedly screwed.

Narrow the poverty gap? The Dems hold 6 of the top 10 richest congressional seats(including #1). They have theirs, they don't want you in that club. That's why they spend all YOUR money. Help them? How have liberal politics helped one single American? They want to have as many people as possible in the pot so when they piss in it, you all get wet. More money in government? Isn't 2+ TRILLION DOLLARS enough? If it ain't fixed by now, it isn't fixable. Big government isn't the solution, it is the problem.

Quit reading the Liberal logs...they are lies. If you want to find out who pays taxes in America read this IRS excel file. The top 50% pay over 96% of all taxes. The top 1% pay 34% of it.

Squiggy...."Star Wars" helped defeat the Soviet Union didn't it. Looked good in 1984 & looks good in 2003. The term homeless was invinted because BUM is a mean phrase.

in the middle of that economic mess.

The one caused by Jiminy Carter...a Democrat

 

[Squiggy]

By Jimmy carter? Where the fuck were you? Nixon is the one who had to put a wage and price freeze into effect because of the tumbling economy...I do believe that crook was REPUBLICAN.

 

[Gonz]

Inflation was combined with unemployment in the last year of the Carter term. The economy fell into recession in the second quarter, the sharpest one-quarter drop in national output on record. If eleven presidential four-year terms, starting with Truman and ending with Bill Clinton, are compared, only in the Carter administration was the total output of the economy declining in the fourth year in office, the year critical for reelection. Reagan was not elected in 1980 because he was viewed as strong by the public in terms of solving the Iranian crisis. When respondents were asked to choose the candidate "best able to handle the Iranian situation" in a poll two months before the election, only 33 percent selected Carter, an unsurprising result; on the other hand, only 39 percent selected Reagan.[8] But the challenger hit a sensitive nerve when he asked voters during a campaign debate whether they were better off than they were four years before. It was not Iran but inflation and unemployment that were the uppermost concerns in the minds of voters. Asked in the same survey two months before the election to identify the "most important problem facing the nation," 61 percent named "the high cost of living," while only 15 percent chose "international problems." The intensity of public feeling two months before the election is illustrated by the fact that 52 percent took the surprisingly strong position of backing the imposition of wage and price controls.[9] The diagnosis frequently repeated in the 1992 Clinton campaign, identifying the critical issue in the contest—James Carville's "it's the economy, stupid"—could also be applied to the 1980 election.

 

[Squiggy]

was that Rush's take on it?

 

[chcr]

was that Rush's take on it?