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Cause you were concerned with how we would fare on the road? Just saying, we've done well away from home too.

Didn't we beat them last year, in SD, during the playoffs? Just some road stats for the Pats: 2002 - 4-4 2003 - 6-2 2004 - 6-2 2005 - 5-3 2006 - 7-1 So 28-12 over the last 5 years on the road isn't to shabby... 70%...

Well, I thought we looked good against San Diego. I know people will question the results and such, but still, San Diego is supposed to be a top team this year and we pretty much manhandled them.

Hey man, it's nothing personal at all, only in the spirit of a solid discussion. I think it''s a hoot. I am a Pats fan, always will be. sufferred through the crappy years and the *good years. And thank god or whatever people do and/or don't believe in that we can both be so passionate about...

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no kidding? that's the first i've heard of it... who was involved?

Wait, another one...

That's thre times I admitted they cheated. You can have whatever opinion you choose to have on what I have said, that's what makes this discussion so good. Fact of the matter is, the fines and penalties have been stated and there is not a damn thing any of this bickering will accomplish...

Under no circumstances have I lost any argument. You have been trying to change my opinion on something, and you haven't, not in the least little bit.

What you quoted from that article is no proof what so ever. If the Packers had real evidence, why was nothing done about it? Were they just trying to be nice, saying "oh, well we'll just remove the person, by not actually do anything about it"? Why was it not a bigger story? Why is it that after...

Do you really think, that if they had done this in the past, they'd just keep it in there with every other piece of film? C'mon....

I am trying to defend these guys because everyone else in this league does something similar to what they got caught doing, yet every other fan I have talked to thinks that their team is above doing this, and honestly, it pisses me off. Does it bug me that it happened and that it makes me...

Sux to be me? Cause I give a rats ass about other fans having an astericks in their mind? And can't investigate the past was directed at this particular situation. Just how would you go about doing? And BS to what you would do if it was Homgren. Such BS...

Jesus christ. Cold cases tend to have EVIDENCE! Not word of mouth for christs sake. That's all you can have with this!

One last thing: There is no way to prove what was done in the past. You can't legitimately investigate what was happening in the past. It's one word against the other. Especially when it comes to Super Bowls, I have not doubt in my mind that every person who opposed the Pats and lost would lie...

There's also no proof that the was being piped to the defensive coordinators... given, in all likely hood it was, but again, there was no proof. Another thing I find interesting: Coming from SI. Now I could have chopped off that last line, but I am not going to skew the quote. I know it...

I biked through Banff once. It was spectacular... I really wanna go back during the summer to play some golf...

How can you take away the game? The tape had absolutely nothing to do with the final result!

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Everyone keeps bringing up past incidents. If it was so bad back then, why the hell wasn't anything done about it? If you're not going to punish them for it then, you have no right whatsoever to bring those occurrences up again when penalizing the team for this. I understand that it was...