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HeXp£Øi±

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Iraq says it's going to let weapons inspecters in. What if the guy actually smartened up and let us do everything we wanted. That would really be a wonderful thing(less dead Iraqis, not keeping my fingers crossed though).
 
HeXp£Øi± said:
. What if the guy actually smartened up and let us do everything we wanted.
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The very attitude that sometimes makes people worldwide hate us citizens. Another one is "if you're not with us, you're against us"
 
Justintime said:
HeXp£Øi± said:
. What if the guy actually smartened up and let us do everything we wanted.
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The very attitude that sometimes makes people worldwide hate us citizens. Another one is "if you're not with us, you're against us"
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Oh lighten up, its been like that for thousands of years. You are either supporting someone or not.
 
The very attitude that sometimes makes people worldwide hate us citizens
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Hate is a very powerful word. I don't think i could ever hate anyone just because of an attitude. I was moving quickly. Let me delineate farther so non-english speaking peoples can understand. What if the guy smartened up and actually allowed us to confiscate any illigal weapons of mass destruction that he might have possibly sparing countless lives and even his own. The world would be that much better of a place with less weapons and one less war. :p
 
Its just another delay tactic until the current level of chest thumping blows over. Nothing will come of it... nothing. He will probably gain another 2 years time out of it.
 
You know in the first year of inspections the inspectors removed far more nuclear and biological materials then we did by bombing through the entire desert storm operation. IF we can get back in there we will probably make more progress then bombing. With the exception that saddam would still be in power.
 
I don't think Iraq will allow US inspectors back in because half of our last team were CIA operatives... and we admitted it... doh.
 
I don't know. Maybe i'm giving Saddam to much credit but...i find it hard to believe that ANYONE is that stupid. He MUST know that we can and will find and kill him. He must understand that this is the crossroads of his life. I don't know, i just can't believe stupidity to that extent can exist.
 
It's not stupidity, Hex, it's arrogance, and arrogance breeds stupidity.
 
Its not stupidity nor arrogance. You can't read the game based upon your own shoes. Our societal norms are not theirs. Their power is based upon a certain over the top machismo take no prisoners attitude. He kills at a whim... not because he particularly enjoys it; It is done to show his potential enemies and friends alike that he is too powerful to be messed with. Power is maintained on about the same terms as a pirate... the baddest mofo in the pack that thinks he can ride the bear leads that pack until he dies or is killed. There is no retirement at this level in the game. The next guy who takes over won't rest until Saddams entire family is dead and his statues are pulverized. He yells at the US and thumps his chest to keep the appearance of internal weakness from dragging his position down from inside. Hes a fair master at tugging puppet strings on the world stage. He knows his time is close... but it just means that you bark harder at your agressor. If he started to soften up, one of his generals will bump him off... but almost all of them are family in the first place. Better to be feared than loved.
 
But who of us is scared of his own brother. I think they're probably accustomed to his spouting. I get the feeling he actually looks at his couple hundred thousand mediocre army with his low iq and says to himself, "Who can defeat such an army"?
Aaah... I think it's a little of all of the above.
 
At the time of the first Gulf War I think Iraq had the 4th largest army in the world ... not bad for a country with half the population of California ... quality nonwithstanding. I think their approach was more Vietnam-like in nature. They were willing to sacrifice a few 100,000 to swamp it out a few years and kill a few 10,000 Americans and Brits in order to outlast the basic resolve to see it through to the end and just walk away with nothing changed. Nothing changed except that Saddams powerbase would be through the roof for having shaken the big boys off of his back.
 
Like I said, arrogance. Arrogance that he cannot be touched, that he has already shaken the big boys off his back once, and will do so again if needed. The problem is, we tried to do it diplomatically last time, and now we are trying to do it the diplomatic way again. Is it any coincidence that Iraq said the inspectors could come back in days after Bush told the UN he was going in with or without their support? I don't think so.
 
The text of a statement by the White House in response to Iraq's offer for the unconditional return of weapons inspectors:

As the president said, the U.N. Security Council needs to decide how to enforce its own resolutions, which the Iraqi regime has defied for more than a decade.

This will require a new, effective U.N. Security Council resolution that will actually deal with the threat Saddam Hussein poses to the Iraqi people, to the region, and to the world. That is the course the Security Council is on, and the United States is engaged in consultations with Council members and other partners in New York at this time.

This is not a matter of inspections. It is about disarmament of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and the Iraqi regime's compliance with all other Security Council resolutions.

This is a tactical step by Iraq in hopes of avoiding strong U.N. Security Council action. As such, it is a tactic that will fail.

It is time for the security council to act.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26225-2002Sep16.html

A 'thanks, but no thanks from DC'
 
read the fine print about the "unconditional access"

"Ali Muhsen Hamid claimed Iraq was being sincere, but he stipulated that civilian sites would not be available to the inspectors. "We support anywhere, any military site (for inspections), but not as some people have suggested for inspections against hospitals, against schools. Hospitals are among key sites for inspections because of evidence that Saddam uses health laboratories to manufacture viruses for biological weapons."
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http://www.thisislondon.com/dynamic/news/top_story.html?in_review_id=698298&in_review_text_id=671535
 
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