Carve-up of the oil riches begins

Jeslek

Banned
SOURCE: http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,825103,00.html

The leader of the London-based Iraqi National Congress, Ahmed Chalabi, has met executives of three US oil multinationals to negotiate the carve-up of Iraq's massive oil reserves post-Saddam.

Disclosure of the meetings in October in Washington - confirmed by an INC spokesman - comes as Lord Browne, the head of BP, has warned that British oil companies have been squeezed out of post-war Iraq even before the first shot has been fired in any US-led land invasion.

Confirming the meetings to US journalists, INC spokesman Zaab Sethna said: 'The oil people are naturally nervous. We've had discussions with them, but they're not in the habit of going around talking about them.'

Next month oil executives will gather at a country retreat near Sandringham to discuss Iraq and the future of the oil market. The conference, hosted by Sheikh Yamani, the former Oil Minister of Saudi Arabia, will feature a former Iraqi head of military intelligence, an ex-Minister and City financiers. Topics for discussion include the country's oil potential, whether it can become as big a supplier as Saudi Arabia, and whether a post-Saddam Iraq might destroy the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries.

Disclosure of talks between the oil executives and the INC - which enjoys the support of Bush administration officials - is bound to exacerbate friction on the UN Security Council between permanent members and veto-holders Russia, France and China, who fear they will be squeezed out of a post-Saddam oil industry in Iraq. [lol --LL]

Although Russia, France and China have existing deals with Iraq, Chalabi has made clear that he would reward the US for removing Saddam with lucrative oil contracts, telling the Washington Post recently: 'American companies will have a big shot at Iraqi oil.'

Indeed, the issue of who gets their hands on the world's second largest oil reserves has been a major factor driving splits in the Security Council over a new resolution on Iraq.

If true, it is hardly surprising, given the size of the potential deals. As of last month, Iraq had reportedly signed several multi-billion-dollar deals with foreign oil companies, mainly from China, France and Russia.

Among these Russia, which is owed billions of dollars by Iraq for past arms deliveries, has the strongest interest in Iraqi oil development, including a $3.5 billion, 23-year deal to rehabilitate oilfields, particularly the 11-15 billion-barrel West Qurna field, located west of Basra near the Rumaila field.

Since the agreement was signed in March 1997, Russia's Lukoil has prepared a plan to install equipment with capacity to produce 100,000 barrels per day from West Qurna's Mishrif formation.

French interest is also intense. TotalFinaElf has been in negotiations with Iraq on development of the Nahr Umar field.

Planning for Iraq's post-Saddam oil industry is being driven by a coalition of neo-conservatives in Washington think-tanks with close links to the Bush administration, and with INC officials who have long enjoyed their support. Those hawks have long argued that US control of Iraq's oil would help deliver a second objective. That is the destruction of Opec, the oil producers' cartel, which they argue is 'evil' - that is, incompatible with American interests.

Larry Lindsey, President Bush's economic adviser, recently said that a successful war on Iraq would be good for business.

'When there is a regime change in Iraq, you could add three to five million barrels [per day] of production to world supply,' he said in September. 'The successful prosecution of the war would be good for the economy.'

Analysts believe that after five years Iraq could be pumping 10m barrels of oil per day. Opec is already starting to implode, with member nations breaking quotas in an attempt to grab market share before oil prices fall.

Russian concern over a future INC-inspired carve-up of Iraq's oil to the benefit of the US has become so intense that it recently sent a diplomat to hold talks with INC officials. At that meeting in Washington on 29 August the diplomat expressed concern that Russia would be kept out of the oil markets by the US.

A model for the carve-up of Iraq's oil industry was presented in September by Ariel Cohen of the right-wing Heritage Foundation, which has close links to the Bush administration.

In The Future of a Post-Saddam Iraq: A Blueprint for American Involvement, Cohen strikes a similar note to Chalabi, putting forward a road map for the privatisation of Iraq's nationalised oil industry, and warning that France, Russia and China were likely to find that a new INC-led government would not honour their oil contracts.

Cohen's proposal would see Iraq's oil industry split up into three large companies, along the areas of ethnic separation, with one company in the largely Shia south, another for the Sunni region around Baghdad, and the last in the Kurdish north.
The way I see this is that half the world are now holding their hands out, but don't want to help us with the war. How about only making deals with countries that actually contribute to ousting Saddam? Whats your thoughts on this?
 
That's the reason they don't want a regime change. France, Russia, and China will lose out on big-money oil deals...
 
Russia is already asking us to guarantee the $10,000,000,000. deal that might fall apart.
 
LastLegionary said:
The way I see this is that half the world are now holding their hands out, but don't want to help us with the war. How about only making deals with countries that actually contribute to ousting Saddam? Whats your thoughts on this?

what about accepting oil as the main reason for this war?
what if the extremists arabs are right by hating the US?
what if the world give the finger to the US because of expansionist tactics?
 
So this war is not about oil but the rescue of an opressed people from an evil regime. Yet, we are preplanning the theft of their oil? Which, by the way, would be their only hope to restore economic stability in the post war. :rolleyes:
 
Squiggy said:
So this war is not about oil but the rescue of an opressed people from an evil regime. Yet, we are preplanning the theft of their oil? Which, by the way, would be their only hope to restore economic stability in the post war. :rolleyes:
Not theft. The administration was discussing it with the current exiled Iraqi leaders. However, if Iraq then decides to pump out 10 million barrels a day, I don't think I would mind.
 
Luis G said:
LastLegionary said:
The way I see this is that half the world are now holding their hands out, but don't want to help us with the war. How about only making deals with countries that actually contribute to ousting Saddam? Whats your thoughts on this?

what about accepting oil as the main reason for this war?
what if the extremists arabs are right by hating the US?
what if the world give the finger to the US because of expansionist tactics?
Hm, this war isn't about oil... :rolleyes:

What if the extremists arabs are right? Well, then we are wrong...

What if the world give the finger to the US? Hm.... they don't have to buy Iraq's oil. But they will. Trust me.
 
LastLegionary said:
Hm.... they don't have to buy Iraq's oil. But they will. Trust me.

many people don't hate the US right now, but they will. Trust me.
conquering Iraq territory and selling their oil will only make things worst for you guys, we can expect to see a lot of terrorist attacks in US territory.
 
Luis G said:
LastLegionary said:
Hm.... they don't have to buy Iraq's oil. But they will. Trust me.

many people don't hate the US right now, but they will. Trust me.
They already do... We're the big evil Satan no matter what we do. If we just sit there and don't act, we are accused of "isolationism". If we do something, its "controlling the world".


conquering Iraq territory and selling their oil will only make things worst for you guys, we can expect to see a lot of terrorist attacks in US territory.
Nah. In case you didn't notice, half the Arab world wants him out too... they just don't want to say it out loud. Ayatollah Kumenei's people were CHANTING in the streets against Saddam. The Kurds WANT him out. The exiled Iraqi leaders WANT him out...
 
Luis G said:
many people don't hate the US right now, but they will. Trust me.

:rolleyes:

conquering Iraq territory and selling their oil will only make things worst for you guys

Okay, here's a little quiz for you. The first part is reading comprehension, followed by a short essay question.

1. Who is Achmed Chalabi? (10 pts)

2. What is the INC? (10 pts)

3. If Saddam is ousted by the US, which organization is currently the frontrunner for forming a new government? (10 pts)

4. Who currently owns the Iraqi oil wells? (10 pts)

5. Who is currently selling Iraqi oil to the Russian, French and Chinese oil companies? (10 pts)

5. Who will own the oil wells in Iraq if Saddam is ousted? (10 pts)

6. Who is currently saying that they will review all deals made by Saddam with foreign oil companies, and may not honor them? (10 pts)

7. If the US ousts Iraq who will be selling Iraqi oil? (10 pts)

8. If the US ousts Iraq, who will the people selling Iraqi oil most likely be selling it to? (10 pts)

9. Write a short essay on the difference between "conquering" a country, and invading a country run by hostile government to set up a democratic government comprised of people native to that country. (20 pts)

**For extra credit, explain the difference between having a contract giving you the right to purchase the oil produced by an oil well, and owning the oil well.
 
1. X
2. X
3. US
4. Iraq
5. Iraq
6. US
7. US
8. US and Russia
9. you already did it, unfortunately, the US is going to conquer Iraq.

extra credit: who will receive the money of such purchase?, if you think by any chance that the Iraq goverment will, you are mistaken.
 
Luis G said:
1. X
2. X
3. US
4. Iraq
5. Iraq
6. US
7. US
8. US and Russia
9. you already did it, unfortunately, the US is going to conquer Iraq.

extra credit: who will receive the money of such purchase?, if you think by any chance that the Iraq goverment will, you are mistaken.

Correct Answers:

1. The leader of the Iraqi National Congress.
2. An Iraqi opposition group based in London.
3. The INC.
4. Iraq, i.e., Saddam Hussein.
5. Iraq, i.e., Saddam Hussein
6. Ahmed Chalabi and the INC.
7. The government formed by Ahmed Chalabi and the INC.
8. The US. Possibly Great Britain, Russia and anyone else the INC can bribe into supporting Saddam's ouster.
9. The US is going to kick Saddam out of Iraq, and make it possible for the INC to form a new government.

**Extra Credit. The US will be purchasing oil from the new government of Iraq.

You scored 20%.
 
damn, i should read more US media, in order to believe that crap and score higher :rolleyes:
 
Luis, Luis, Luis... I'm surprised at you. To cast doubt on the US media while reading only TASS is the same as doubting TASS while only reading the US media. The truth is always between the extremes. Don't make me bring my 'maldito gringo culo' down there and force you to read 'The New Republican'. :p
 
It's always interesting to read other countries newspapers gives you a better idea of where they are coming from. ;)

I like to look at both sides of an arguement. Are there any decent democrat papers online?
 
Luis G said:
damn, i should read more US media, in order to believe that crap and score higher :rolleyes:

One more quiz question:

1. LL began this thread by publishing an article from an online news source. Name the country of origin for the article.
 
Ardsgaine said:
Luis G said:
damn, i should read more US media, in order to believe that crap and score higher :rolleyes:

One more quiz question:

1. LL began this thread by publishing an article from an online news source. Name the country of origin for the article.

The majority of people in this country don't read the observer - if you want to look at what affects grass-roots opinion you should check out a paper like the Daily Express, which has the largest circulaton in the country.
 
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