France sucks

Nothing new... They even had a pre-emptive surrender: French President Chirac says "war always means failure" Link: http://europe.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/01/23/sprj.irq.europe.rumsfeld/

BERLIN, Germany -- French and German leaders have insisted they will do all they can to prevent war in Iraq, after U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld dismissed the two "problem" countries as being out of step with most of Europe.

Speaking to a group of French and German students in Berlin, German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder said on Thursday that he and French President Jacques Chirac rejected the view that war was unavoidable.

"We are both of the opinion, and the French president said that quite clearly yesterday, that one can never accept it when it is said that war is unavoidable," said Schroeder, sitting next to Chirac at a ceremony marking the 40th anniversary of the postwar German-French friendship treaty.

"War may never be considered unavoidable. ... Everything must be done to achieve the implementation of the (U.N.) resolution by peaceful means. That is the common position of France and Germany and we will not be diverted from it," Schroeder said.

On Wednesday, Rumsfeld dismissed French and German insistence that "everything must be done to avoid war" with Iraq, saying most European countries stand with the United States in its campaign to force Iraqi President Saddam Hussein to disarm.

"Germany has been a problem, and France has been a problem," said Rumsfeld, a former NATO ambassador. "But you look at vast numbers of other countries in Europe. They're not with France and Germany on this, they're with the United States."

"You're thinking of Europe as Germany and France. I don't. I think that's old Europe," Rumsfeld said "If you look at the entire NATO Europe today, the centre of gravity is shifting to the east. And there are a lot of new members." (Full story)

Earlier in Paris, Chirac and Schroeder said they were not convinced a war with Iraq was necessary while U.N. arms inspectors were still searching Iraq for weapons of mass destruction.

"Any decision belongs to the Security Council and the Security Council alone, which will address the issue after having examined the latest inspectors' report," Chirac said. "Secondly, as far as we're concerned, war always means failure."

France holds a veto on the Security Council as one of its five permanent members, while Germany is a key NATO ally and will hold the council's rotating presidency in February.

Asked about Rumsfeld's remarks, French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin said in Berlin: "Everyone expresses their opinion. This should be done in an honest and respectful manner."

Volker Ruehe, former German defence minister and normally a strong advocate of U.S. defence policy, said: "It's not right to play off Eastern Europe against Western Europe."

"Rumsfeld is not exactly a diplomat and it is not very wise to say something like that," said Ruehe, chairman of the German parliament's foreign policy committee.

Hans-Ulrich Klose, a Social Democrat in the German parliament, said: "It's unheard of. The Americans can't call nations a problem just because they don't share their view. The Americans shouldn't try to divide Europe into 'good' and 'not-so-good' Europeans."

French Environment Minister Roselyne Bachelot, a senior conservative and Chirac's campaign manager in the last election, was even more blunt.

"If you knew what I would like to say to him, to Mr Rumsfeld ..." Bachelot told Europe 1 radio.

"I come from the Loire region where there used to be a famous person by the name of Cambronne," she said,

Her remarks were a reference to French General Etienne Cambronne, known perhaps apocryphally for his vulgar reply to British troops who urged him to surrender during the Battle of Waterloo.

Chirac called for calm. His spokeswoman Catherine Colonna said: "Polemics have no place in this debate."

In Ivory Coast:

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Waving U.S. flags, the 6,000 people appealed to Washington to block the French-brokered power-sharing accord with rebels who control about half of Ivory Coast, once the economic engine of West Africa.

Cheering crowds mobbed the car of a few Americans who ventured out, chanting, "U.S.A.! U.S.A.!" and pleading for American support. Heavily armed U.S. soldiers looked on.

Organizers passed out lyrics of the "Star-Spangled Banner" for the crowd to sing. One protester carried a sign that read, "Our freedom is in your hands, U.S.A."

The U.S. State Department already has said it supports the accord and has urged both sides to comply with it. That stance appears not to have sunk in with the loyalists."
 
They have excessive amounts of armpit hair, and their language is hard (I got a 68 on my last french quiz, and scored higher than 75% of the class :eek:)
 
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