France's health minister admits up to 5,000 could have died in heat wave[UPDATE]

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JAMEY KEATEN, Associated Press

A senior French health official resigned Monday after the health minister acknowledged that as many as 5,000 people might have died in a blistering heat wave.

Lucien Abenhaim, director general of health, sent a letter to Health Minister Jean-Francois Mattei saying he would resign because of intense criticism leveled at the government over its handling of the heat wave earlier this month. Mattei accepted the resignation.

Abenhaim suggested that the criticism faced by the government was unfair.

"We faced a heat wave catastrophe the likes of which had not been seen for more than 100 years," he said on France-Info radio. "But clearly in our country we tend a bit to look for scapegoats, which is totally unacceptable."

The departure was likely to step up pressure on Mattei, who has also faced calls to resign. Earlier Monday, Mattei acknowledged that it is "plausible" that up to 5,000 people could have died during the heat wave but said a final toll would not be known for weeks.

His ministry has estimated that 1,600 to 3,000 people -- mostly elderly -- died from heat-related causes starting Aug. 7. Many of the deaths resulted from heat stroke or dehydration, doctors said.

Last week, Patrick Pelloux, the head of France's emergency physicians' association and a leading critic of the government's response, said as many as 5,000 people could have died from heat stroke, dehydration and other effects of the withering heat.

Mattei, asked about the assertion on RTL radio, said: "It's a hypothesis -- it's plausible -- but it's only a hypothesis."

Doctors' groups and the Socialist opposition have taken aim at Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin's government, saying it did not react quickly enough to the prospect of heat-related deaths.

But lawmakers from the ruling UMP coalition have blamed a law enacted by Socialists when they were in power that limits France's working week to 35 hours. They say the law left medical centers and hospitals short-staffed at the height of the crisis.

The government has said many of the deaths were among elderly people left at home by family members who left on holiday. Much of France shuts down in August.

Earlier this month, parts of France suffered in temperatures of 104 degrees and higher, but temperatures have since cooled to more normal levels.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2003/08/18/international0934EDT0499.DTL
 
Re: France's health minister admits up to 5,000 could have died in heat wave

I cannot believe something like this could happen in france. The US climate is worse in many areas than france and during a bad year only a few hundred will die. That's with 275 million population! What the hell is going on over there and what does the rest of Europe look like?
 
Re: France's health minister admits up to 5,000 could have died in heat wave

Hex - I believe the complaints are most of the people over there (as far as I know) enjoy much milder weather than we in the US are accustomed to. This means that most of the people don't have air conditioners (as far as I know) because in general they aren't needed as such. :s

Not that I'm siding with 'em, or anything. It regularly reaches 100f here (before the heat index) during the summer ...
 
Re: France's health minister admits up to 5,000 could have died in heat wave

... I dun't understand where you're going with that ...
 
Re: France's health minister admits up to 5,000 could have died in heat wave

Sorry Rose. :D I was just commenting that your idea makes sense.
 
Re: France's health minister admits up to 5,000 could have died in heat wave

Ah. *hehe* Gotcha.

Tell you whut, now, not having a/c does not make sense a bit to me! *lol* I know I said I think it's much milder over there - but I couldn't imagine life without an ac!!!
 
Re: France's health minister admits up to 5,000 could have died in heat wave

We don't need it where i live. The hottest day in summer during a scorching year it might hit 85 if we're lucky. 70 is an average high for July.
 
Re: France's health minister admits up to 5,000 could have died in heat wave

Gosh, but Alaska is much colder, I'd think, than Europe. :D I have family up there stationed ... somewhere.
 
Re: France's health minister admits up to 5,000 could have died in heat wave

My dad's family used to live in Orinda, CA (just up the road from flavio) when my dad was in high school (class of 1968). The house they lived in would probably be worth 3/4 of a million at least with how prices are these days, especially with the view it had... but there was no A/C in it. They didn't need it.
 
Re: France's health minister admits up to 5,000 could have died in heat wave

the uk was hitting at least 10-15c higher than seasonal average, and france was higher than that during our hottest parts [regularly hitting over 40c]. the impact of having that amount of heat for prolonged periods [2 weeks i think the last wave went for] in a location where a/c is scarce, and usually unnecessary for buildings other than large offices, would be devastating.

there is also a cultural factor that methods adopted in other, hotter, climates to manage the heat passively and to alter diet and water intake. in countries where temps are that high the reaction is not usually to spend long periods outside, especially during the 11-3pm period. in the uk we see the nice weather as too good to miss and i would suspect we saw an increase in heatstroke, sunburn and probably some fatalities.
 
I would guess that many people with frail health were caught unprepared for the unusual temperatures.
 
13,600 KILLED BY HEATWAVE

Aug 21 2003

UNDERTAKERS in France estimate the recent heatwave killed more than 13,600 people.

Funeral home giant OGF say almost 3500 people will have died in Paris alone by the end of the month.

Their figures are almost two-and-a-half times the French government's heat- related death toll. Health minister Jean-Francois Mattei conceded on Monday that it was "plausible" that up to 5000 people may have died in France, almost twice as many as previously feared.

However, he insisted that figure was a hypothesis and that the final toll was not expected for several weeks.

The OGF toll is based on comparisons with last August's death rate.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/c...ine=-13-600-KILLED-BY-HEATWAVE-name_page.html
 
Shame-Damn shame...
My son's school rooms do not have AC either and he comes home roasting hot on the heated days. And they wonder why all the kids want to be sent to the principals office-ITS AC????? LOL
 
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these people died from a heatwave and in part from inaction of government, i think comments about french people surrendering in this case are out of context and a little tasteless.
 
ris said:
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these people died from a heatwave and in part from inaction of government, i think comments about french people surrendering in this case are out of context and a little tasteless.

How can one person die from inaction of government caused by a natural event? Isn't that what natural selection is all about. Before you ask, yes I was equally disgusted by the cries after the Chicago heatwave a couple of years ago. If people don't have enough sense to move to a more suitable location, so be it.
 
doctors warned at the start of the heatwave that the elderly would be particularly vulnerable and asked the government to step in and help ensure that people has sufficient water supplies to prevent dehydration [as noted in the first post the main cause of death].

the french government has accepted that they probably did not do enough to help the infirm during the exceptional heat and are to review the health system as a consequence. bbc more
 
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http://www.times.spb.ru/archive/times/893/rest/r_10062.htm:

Many of the victims were elderly, and Mattei said the high death rate was a result of an "exceptional" heat wave combined with an aging population.

Health officials say August is often a time when elderly people find themselves alone, when their families go on vacation.

"They are often alone in Paris when their families go away on holiday," said health ministry spokesperson Laurence Danand.

"There are a lot of elderly people alone in big cities in August," he said


Solution: When there's a heat wave in France make sure you pay the water bill and leave the a/c on before you abandon your elderly parents and go on vacation... :rolleyes:

(On the road....Jean-Pierre: "I know there's something I forgot to do ..." Antoinette: "Did you unplug the toaster? Turn off the t.v.? Leave food for FiFi? Water the plants?)
 
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