Georgia's giant leap backwards

Leslie

Leslie

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Georgia students could graduate from high school without learning much about evolution, and may never even hear the word uttered in class.
New middle and high school science standards proposed by state Schools Superintendent Kathy Cox strike references to "evolution" and replace them with the term "biological changes over time," a revision critics say will further weaken learning in a critical subject.
Outraged teachers already have told the state it is undercutting the science education of young Georgians.
"Just like any major issue people need to deal with, you need to know the facts," said David Bechler, head of the biology department at Valdosta State University. A member of the committee that worked on the biology standards, Bechler said he was stunned to learn that evolution was not in the final proposal.
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of all the stupid

this is asinine. whether it happened then, it's certainly happened/ing since and students need to know.
 
Why would you let the facts interfere with educating your children, your future??????? :disgust:
 
I believe evolution should be taught in school, as long as creation gets a mention as well.
 
I do not beleive in creationism whatsoever...it's just too bad that evolution is no more proven than creation.

They are both theories.
 
I think all the theories should be taught. Natalie tho creationism is popular in Christianity it is also taught in other religions as well. I thought this kind of crap ended in the 20's or 30s? that they would still teach it but not as much as evolution.
 
Then teach all of the creation myths (Hindu, Native American, Christian, et al) in a History of Religion class, don't include them in a science curriculum. :disgust2:
 
There isn't time to teach every single creation theorie. Unless we have schools full of theology majors, there just isn't time.
 
Ms Ann Thrope said:
Then teach all of the creation myths (Hindu, Native American, Christian, et al) in a History of Religion class, don't include them in a science curriculum. :disgust2:
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Very much agreed! But what happened to the seperation of Church and State is my question! History of Religion class isn't that what church is for to teach you that and if you don't like than go to a private school! I mean come on evolution is a scientific theory (ie thats why you put it in a science class) religion is a religous belief (ie thats why you goto church). I think this is a way to force upon the impressional to be more close minded rather than open to all possiblities! :disgust:
 
freako104 said:
science is about theories and I think people should know all sides before they pick one
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I disagree, science is about fact.

If it is simply a matter of someone deciding what they believe then we are talking philosophy. When we apply that to creation then we are talking theology which imho fall under the category of Religious Studies not science.

Like it or not evolution happens - fact. Why that would mean God doesn't exist is completely beyond me, I was always under the impression that God (assuming of course that God exists) was omnipotent and could therefore have created evolution...
 
Well, if you go to a private school, most won't teach you about any religon except their own, except the occasional jab at other religons.

To get a broad view of religon you really have to attend some college level classes where you can learn about religon in history. Now, the question is, is it necessary to teach the kids this before they get to college?
 
Gonz said:
I do not beleive in creationism whatsoever...it's just too bad that evolution is no more proven than creation.

They are both theories.
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No. Evolution is a fact. It has been proven genetically years ago. Creationist's childish refusal to accept that in no way abrogates the fact any more than the flat-earthers refusal to accept the round earth makes it theoretically flat. Creation is a myth, not a theory.

Edit--Teach it in church if you must, it has no place in the public school system.
 
chcr said:
No. Evolution is a fact. It has been proven genetically years ago. Creationist's childish refusal to accept that in no way abrogates the fact any more than the flat-earthers refusal to accept the round earth makes it theoretically flat. Creation is a myth, not a theory.

Edit--Teach it in church if you must, it has no place in the public school system.
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You can be a monkey's uncle, I prefer to believe my ancestors always were humans.






As for teaching it in school - why not? Devote a week to "history of the world" in science class. Teachers should be frank and present the information in a way that allows the student to form his own opinions and do his own research. The teacher should note the two "main" theories of the beginning of the world - creation & evolution. In a subject that is so widely debated as this, the teacher should not teach either to be correct or right, but to supply a few statements on either side. Spend one day's class time on evolution, big bang, whatever. Spend the next day on creation - not reading the bible but teach that various religions believe that the world was created by a God/gods/godess(es). Overview a few of the main ones. That still leaves three more days of class for open discussion and whatnot. Then on the last day of the week - the students should be told to choose a theory they think is most plausible and write a report on why it is.

The point is - keep it simple and let the student decide what to believe for themselves.
 
...maybe i'm oversimplifying the situation...but what i can't help but think is that if you want your child to know something that the school is not teaching them....teach them yourself...hell, they're your kids :)
 
tonks said:
...maybe i'm oversimplifying the situation...but what i can't help but think is that if you want your child to know something that the school is not teaching them....teach them yourself...hell, they're your kids :)
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You know that is so simple it might actually be RIGHT! Thanks Tonks
 
You can be a monkey's uncle, I prefer to believe my ancestors always were humans.
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I guess you're probably unaware that the phrase "descended from apes" came from the creationists. No one who understands evolution thinks we are.
As for teaching it in school - why not?
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Separation of church and state? The Constitution? You are free to believe what you want. You are not free to teach a religious myth as a viable scientific theory in a public school.
 
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