Gato_Solo
Out-freaking-standing OTC member
I think yes. Every last one of those hoodlums needs to be run through the court system as roughly as possible under the law. There's never a need for what they did.
Hate crime...
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SouthernN'Proud
Southern Discomfort
Reverse the roles and it would be, so yeah I say it fits.
paul_valaru
100% Pure Canadian Beef
Still say the death penalty needs to be expanded
SouthernN'Proud
Southern Discomfort
What it needs is carried out.
Ever read The Stand? Remember when Lloyd was first in jail, and that lawyer talked to him and explained the appeal process? THAT'S what we need. One appeal, within a month of sentencing, and when it's denied, yer toasted within two weeks.
paul_valaru
100% Pure Canadian Beef
I think if the person is without a doubt guilty ie. caught on film, there should be no appeal process.
If it is not caught on film, but is found guilty beyond a resonable doubt a special group of investigators should have on year to look into it and make sure there was no other option for guilt, after 365 days...
chcr
Too cute for words
Remain fictional?
2minkey
bootlicker
rape her, too?
BeardofPants
New Member
No, cos humans are still culpable. Unless it's caught on film or equivalent (able to be corroborated by 2 or more witnesses, then there's no 100% guarantee is there?
The Thin Blue Line
catocom
Well-Known Member
markjs
Banned
Exactly spike....That's the most important question that could be asked IMHO. I mean this country is made up mostly of christians and "christians". and based largely on christian values.
Because most "christians' would say:
"christian": Execute the (racial slur ommitted)!
(yes I know MOST "christians" are not racist, but many are, and outrage brins out even the slightest tendency)
markjs: But what about "Thou shalt not Kill"? Don't you even believe your own bible?
"christian" (if he was honest which is highly unlikely): It also says "ane eye for an eye" and I only use the scripture that supports my will in the matter because gods will is something I know nothing about really....
IMHO, it IS a hate crime, and should be prosecuted as such, but the death penalty is immoral, and many times death rwo inmated are found innocent long after their conviction and unfortunately it can't be taken back. Jesus would NEVER condone capital punishment, and if you think different, you are sadly mistaken.
Murder.
The Hebrew version, where it comes from it specifies murder. Yes, one of them non Catholics did a rewrite. (Luther? King James? Bob the Builder?)
A failure in the system.
If he was duly tried & convicted by a jury of his peers & later found innocent, then it shows that it's not a perfect system. Wanna bet for every one that is incorrectly convicted there are 100 that wallk?
A failure in the system.
If he was duly tried & convicted by a jury of his peers & later found innocent, then it shows that it's not a perfect system. Wanna bet for every one that is incorrectly convicted there are 100 that wallk?
markjs
Banned
That is exactly what the founding fathers wanted.
Can't remember the exact quote or who said it but something like:
Better a guilty man walk free than an innocent man condemned.
The system is purposely stacked in favor of the accused. I know conservatives pretend to love the constitution, but this is one of the many issues where their true colrs show....
Capital punishment is not justice, it's state sponsored revenge, and if you asked Jesus, he'd tell you to knock it the fuck off.
Of that I have absolutely no doubt....
spike
New Member
markjs
Banned
That's another one of the many points that makes the "infallible word of god" myth as laughable as it is....
If it was infallible how could this mini argument ever have been made possible?
Who knows what it said on the stone tablet before it was translated to the more modern Hebrrew of the bible?
markjs
Banned
I also happen to know that Jesus was big on sinners repenting and changing their ways. I am just such a sinner who had this chance and have a year of doing the right thing best I can behind me. If a guy murders someone, and truly repents in his heart, any true Christian would want that man spared of state sponsored revenge.
I know of some case in Texas where a lot of Christians and "christains" alike wanted the death penalty commuted to a life sentence, because the woman had been on drugs and under the influence of a bad man. In my mind the right thing happened and they executed the bitch.
Why was that the right thing if I persoanlly am anti death penalty? Because she was guilty by her own admission, and most of those "christians" and Christians believe in the death penalty. You can't have it both ways and not be a hypocrite. Should we just let them pass a polygraph and if they are sorry allow them to get off the hook?
The bottom line is a life sentence is a hell of a hard punishment. It's economically cheaper than a death penalty case, and it allows for repentance as Jesus would have wanted were he here to say so. Its also can at least be cut short should the accused later be proven innocent, and wrongly convicted. Especially heinous killers should be sent to a supermaxx facilty. Those places are a living hell, I have seen the documentaries, and I have a friend who was incarcerated in one. Supermaxx is a fate worse than death.
Being pro death penalty is anti Christian, simple as that. How do I know? well is doesn't pass the litmus test in any way that I can see.
I know of some case in Texas where a lot of Christians and "christains" alike wanted the death penalty commuted to a life sentence, because the woman had been on drugs and under the influence of a bad man. In my mind the right thing happened and they executed the bitch.
Why was that the right thing if I persoanlly am anti death penalty? Because she was guilty by her own admission, and most of those "christians" and Christians believe in the death penalty. You can't have it both ways and not be a hypocrite. Should we just let them pass a polygraph and if they are sorry allow them to get off the hook?
The bottom line is a life sentence is a hell of a hard punishment. It's economically cheaper than a death penalty case, and it allows for repentance as Jesus would have wanted were he here to say so. Its also can at least be cut short should the accused later be proven innocent, and wrongly convicted. Especially heinous killers should be sent to a supermaxx facilty. Those places are a living hell, I have seen the documentaries, and I have a friend who was incarcerated in one. Supermaxx is a fate worse than death.
Being pro death penalty is anti Christian, simple as that. How do I know? well is doesn't pass the litmus test in any way that I can see.
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