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Jeslek

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Biologists think they're biochemists.
Biochemists think they're chemists.
Chemists think the're physical chemists.
Physical Chemists think they're physicists.
Physicists think they're God.
God thinks he is a mathematician.

:)
 
Originally posted by Luis G
btw.....i'm god in maths :D :D

Awesome. I'm stuck with this differential equation right now...

By means of the substitution z = y/x, solve the equation:

dy/dx = y^2/x^2 + y/x + 1


The answer is y = tan(ln Dx) where D is a constant of integration.

Anybody know the working? Luis? :confused:

MuFu.
 
i have to take a look at my math4 notes.

The equations looks easy, but it could be tricky.
 
Oh god, I love differential equations, but I haven't done them in a while. Maybe I'll have it for you later on. Time to go get my Bible, a.k.a. my Calculus book. :D
 
all i saw was blahblahblah something xy q=ghkasuhdgfksjf blahblah poot

i don't think my brain was wired up for maths :)
 
It's been a while since i did my last differential equation, but if i remember right the thing should be done like this:

z=y/x, y = zx, dy/dx = z + xdz/dx

z + xdz/dx = z^2 + z + 1

xdz/dx = z^2 + 1

x/dx = (z^2 + 1)/dz

dx/x = dz/(z^2+1)


making the integration

ln(x) + C = arctan(z)
but: z = y/x
ln(Cx) = arctan(y/x)

tan( ln(Cx) ) = y/x

y = x tan ( ln(Cx) )


Either iim wrong or you missed an x in your post.
 
Originally posted by LastLegionary
Biologists think they're biochemists.
Biochemists think they're chemists.
Chemists think the're physical chemists.
Physical Chemists think they're physicists.
Physicists think they're God.
God thinks he is a mathematician.

:)

I have met many physics majors that think they are chemists.

Haha they wouldn't know the first thing about making a reaction go. Some people are a good calculator/robot(mathematicians or physicists). Big deal!

Anyway math is nice but you need something to apply it too same as physics.

This is why Chemistry is the Central Science.

I consider Chemistry a ancient art. Math and Physics is simply a tool for a Chemist.
 
In the end it all ends up being atomic matter that we use and see as anything we look at is only a reflection of its material charechteristics. Yes people can use a laser but that only comes from a struture made by atoms. Atoms are a chemists delicacy!
 
:D :D

What about the space??, only one atom per cubic meter, we need physics there :D
 
Originally posted by Luis G
:D :D

What about the space??, only one atom per cubic meter, we need physics there :D

What about space? You think you can just walk out there and do some calculations with a thermometer and a tape measure.

Without Chemistry or material you have no particles to apply your math and physics to and they are simply numbers with no true meaning.

It would be interesting to try and find physical charecteristics of a true "vacuum."

You would find what

density=0
mass=0
thermal conductivity(this ones for you OSLI)=0
refractive index=0

Not a whole lot of numbers to work with here now are there?
 
Don't know what you think, but chemistry are not atoms, and physics are not numbers.

Math is a pure abstract science, chemistry and physics are not.

I don't consider a mother science, because that's a completely wrong conception, some religious guy could come and say that teology is the mother science, because without god there would not be a single thing....
 
I heard (I think either from my first Physics teacher or one of my Calculus teachers) that Physics was basically a mix of a bunch of smaller sciences. Math isn't a science, it's a tool of science, by far the most powerful one. Math is a universal language. BTW, I learned more Physics in Calculus than I ever did in any Physics class. :p
 
i HATE math im in 113 math now.. the lowest level of grade 11 math possable!!!.. pfft as long as i know enough math to multiply my bus speed.. im happy
 
Originally posted by Luis G
It's been a while since i did my last differential equation, but if i remember right the thing should be done like this:

z=y/x, y = zx, dy/dx = z + xdz/dx

z + xdz/dx = z^2 + z + 1

xdz/dx = z^2 + 1

x/dx = (z^2 + 1)/dz

dx/x = dz/(z^2+1)


making the integration

ln(x) + C = arctan(z)
but: z = y/x
ln(Cx) = arctan(y/x)

tan( ln(Cx) ) = y/x

y = x tan ( ln(Cx) )


Either iim wrong or you missed an x in your post.

Nah, that's cool Luis, cheers. :)

I meant to say the answer was "z = tan (ln Dx)" (doh!) and forgot to substitute back in the "z = y/x" bit to give "y = tan(ln Dx)".

Many thanks,

MuFu.
 
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