Mel Gibson isn't Sean Penn

Gonz

Gonz

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Before the war in Iraq, we had Hollyweird stars going on about blacklisting because the people didn't like what they were saying. Censorship they called it. Which is just silly because the only one capable of censorship is the government. They carried on about how unjustly they were treated because Americans believe the war was the right thing to do. (don't argue Squiggy, I'm making a point). Tim Robbins & his old bitch, Sean Penn, those country chicks, and some others that I've aslso forgotten about. Whine whine whine. Yet on Sunday night many of them will be looking to be chosen as winners of an Oscar. Where is the blacklisting?

Fast Forward 9 months.

Mel Gibson has produced (solely at his expense) & directed a movie about the final 12 hours of Jesus Christ according to the bible he reads. It has been lambasted since the beginning of post production (if not before). Not merely ignored or laughed at but pure unadulterated hate has poured from the mouths of those on the left coast. Many actually said he is done in Hollywood or "I will not work with him" because of this movie.

Here are a few examples:

No child should see this movie.

Even adults are at risk.

Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" is the most virulently anti-Semitic movie made since the German propaganda films of World War II.
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Jeffrey Katzenberg and David Geffen, the principals of DreamWorks, have privately expressed anger over the film, said an executive close to the two men.

The chairmen of two other major studios said they would avoid working with Mr. Gibson because of "The Passion of the Christ" and the star's remarks surrounding its release.

Neither of the chairmen would speak for attribution, but as one explained: "It doesn't matter what I say. It'll matter what I do. I will do something. I won't hire him. I won't support anything he's part of. Personally that's all I can do."
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NY Times

NEW YORK — Andy Rooney (search) set the phone and e-mail lines at CBS buzzing over his commentary — in which he said God was speaking through him — calling Mel Gibson (search) and the Rev. Pat Robertson (search) "wackos."
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FoxNews

More from a Fox story

New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd tries to woo her Passion-hating audience with sarcasm, nicknaming the film "A Fistful of Nails," after Clint Eastwood's spaghetti western.

TV host Charlie Rose featured what passes for fair and balanced at PBS last night with one neutral observer and three hardened critics of “The Passion,” including The New Yorker’s David Denby, who blasted the film as a "sickening death trip." But the same David Denby once called “Pulp Fiction,” a film noted for its non-stop violence, “one of the great wild rides of recent cinema.” Gratuitous, cold-blooded murder is great cinema, but a wrenching portrait of the passion of Christ is deserving of sarcasm and derision.
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Conclusion: It's okay to blacklist & censor conservatives.
 
the blacklisting becomes a self fulfilling prophecy when people like me don't go see their things anymore, and ensure that my own personal dollars however few they may be only go to those who "deserve" them. People who go about spewing crap and mewling and using their "celebrity" (I hate that word, I don't "celebrate" a single one of them) don't get my 2 cents :shrug: if more would follow, instead of being blinded by bright lights and marketing machines, maybe they'd get it...the wallet is they only place "we the people" can show them. :shrug:
 
Not gonna judge how fair this is until I've seen the film.

Find it hard to feel sorry for a multi millionaire who mght now have trouble getting work though whatever the reason.
 
I agree with you, Leslie. However, I don't see spending or withholding my dollars having any effect other than making me feel better. A cursory look at "best-seller" anything will show that the masses are, by-and-large, stupid and easily manipulated. :eh:
 
You, as a consumer, have no power to blacklist or to censor. You have more, and less, power than that.

The industry can blacklist for things they disagree with (read: Passion of the Christ). Most conservative entertainers are forced to keep their mouths shut in order to work in their chosen profession. A few have gained enough stature to bypass this. (Selleck, Schwarzenegger, Gibson).

When the people chose to speak, with their wallets, the entertainment majority claim it's censorship (read: Robbins/Sarandon) when the only entity capable of censorship is the government. The industry bigwhigs stand behind these maligned individuals/acts & make sure they have work. The people quickly lose interest (American short term memory syndrome) & all is forgotten or overlooked.

When the industry blackballs someone, unlike the people they do not forget. They destroy careers for political, religious or personal reasons. Look at the vile spewed forth over Gibsons movie. Was it PR on Mels part or christian bashing? One can't claim it's in defense of the Jews, no matter how hard that line is pushed. If that were true, there'd be more anger with France (et al).

It has already started. It's fun to watch these people come crawling to Icon. Hollywood had nothing to do with this movie, nothing. After costs are paid, Mel will get 50% of the door & is required to share it with no one. Not one single person. He can laugh all the way to the bank.

Hollywood studio heads would sell thier mothers for more power & green. They have no shame. Let's hope Mel Gibson remembers the last year.

And does a little blacklisting of his own.
 
it might not be very powerful, but I do indeed have the ability to blacklist...I have my own list of things I will not buy, and things I will not see or do...because I see the purveyors of these things as either evil or detrimental to the "world" for whatever reason.

it's unfortunate that the masses feel trends and the dollar created "celebres" are what's important in life.
 
and Mel is way hotter so whatever he does must be wonderful anyway

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*melts*
 
I'm sure Mr Gibson is quite pleased with the tons of free propaganda his movie is getting. :D
 
You, as a consumer, have no power to blacklist or to censor.
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no but we do have the power to say what we believe and if it is censored we can say fuck that. or we can say yay it is palatable. we can buy what we want as consumers. that usually shuts up whoever it is we dont like or buy if we like.
 
What are you talking about? Are you saying Mel Gibson has been blacklisted because people are fussing about the content of the movie? Who cares. Its gonna make hundreds of millions of dollars. And christians LIKE it. And last time I checked theres quite a few christians in this world. Are you saying that hollywood studios will never let him make them millions and millions of dollars by headlining another violent action flick? I doubt that. If anything Gibson may no longer have an interest in making just another hollywood movie. Which is a shame cause Im still waiting for the next Mad Max installment... But who knows. And the only thing Ive seen is jewish groups protesting which is certainly not censorship. It just builds up MORE interest in the film (in fact Im eager to see the flick for this very reason). Has everyone forgotten how the catholic community reacted when Martin Scorsese made his Last Temptation of Christ? The Catholics caused it to close in hundreds of thearters and swore Scorsese would ever get one catholic penny ever again. I doubt thats happened. And Catholics are more focused then liberals.
 
if I remember hearing and reading about it I think they called it blaspehmy and one person said "dont read that garbage" when I mentioned I am reading the book
 
Gonz said:
.... & his old bitch, Sean Penn....
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I've heard "Mystic River" is good, but I just can't see it......

" .... Your use of the words, "this is a new kind of war" is often accompanied by an odd smile. It concerns me that what you are asking of us is to abandon all previous lessons of history in favor of following you blindly into the future.... I beg you Mr. President, listen to Gershwin, read chapters of Stegner, of Saroyan, the speeches of Martin Luther King. Remind yourself of America. Remember the Iraqi children, our children, and your own.... On the other hand, should you have faith in the best of this country to support your leadership in representing a strong, thoughtful, and educated United States, you may well triumph for the long haul.

Lead us there, Mr. President, and we will stand with you.

Sincerely, Sean Penn San Francisco, California" --

http://www.beyondgrass.org/peace/archives/000196.html


C'mon, where's Mr. Hand when you need him??

Nice pic of Mel by the way....
 
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