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jimpeel

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The anti-freedom Democtrats are at it again coming up with still one more way to spy on all of us. Lord knows we wouldn't want to make a simple purchase without them looking over our shoulders, now, would we? Just follow the money. That is what this is really about. "You make it, we take it." --

http://www.freedomworks.org/newsroom/press_template.php?press_id=2571

FreedomWorks
June 19, 2008

Senate Housing Bill Requires eBay, Amazon, Google, and All Credit Card Companies to Report Transactions to the Government
Broad, invasive provision touches nearly every aspect of American commerce.

Contact: Adam Brandon
Phone: 202-942-7698
Email: [email protected]

Washington, DC - Hidden deep in Senator Christopher Dodd's 630-page Senate housing legislation is a sweeping provision that affects the privacy and operation of nearly all of America’s small businesses. The provision, which was added by the bill's managers without debate this week, would require the nation's payment systems to track, aggregate, and report information on nearly every electronic transaction to the federal government.

FreedomWorks Chairman Dick Armey commented: "This is a provision with astonishing reach, and it was slipped into the bill just this week. Not only does it affect nearly every credit card transaction in America, such as Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and American Express, but the bill specifically targets payment systems like eBay's PayPal, Amazon, and Google Checkout that are used by many small online businesses. The privacy implications for America's small businesses are breathtaking."

"Privacy groups like the Center for Democracy and Technology and small business organizations like the NFIB sharply criticized this idea when it first appeared earlier this year. What is the federal government's purpose with this kind of detailed data? How will this database be secured, and who will have access? Many small proprietors use their Social Security number as their tax ID. How will their privacy be protected? What compliance costs will this impose on businesses? Why is Sen. Chris Dodd putting this provision in a housing bailout bill? The bill also includes the creation of a new national fingerprint registry for mortgage brokers.

"At a time when concerns about both identity theft and government spying are paramount, Congress wants to create a new honey pot of private data that includes Social Security numbers. This bill reduces privacy across America's payment processing systems and treats every American small business or eBay power seller like a criminal on parole by requiring an unprecedented level of reporting to the federal government. This outrageous idea is another reason to delay the housing bailout legislation so that Senators and the public at large have time to examine its full implications."

From the Senate Bill Summary:

Payment Card and Third Party Network Information Reporting. The proposal requires information reporting on payment card and third party network transactions. Payment settlement entities, including merchant acquiring banks and third party settlement organizations, or third party payment facilitators acting on their behalf, will be required to report the annual gross amount of reportable transactions to the IRS and to the participating payee. Reportable transactions include any payment card transaction and any third party network transaction. Participating payees include persons who accept a payment card as payment and third party networks who accept payment from a third party settlement organization in settlement of transactions. A payment card means any card issued pursuant to an agreement or arrangement which provides for standards and mechanisms for settling the transactions. Use of an account number or other indicia associated with a payment card will be treated in the same manner as a payment card. A de minimis exception for transactions of $10,000 or less and 200 transactions or less applies to payments by third party settlement organizations. The proposal applies to returns for calendar years beginning after December 31, 2010. Back-up withholding provisions apply to amounts paid after December 31, 2011. This proposal is estimated to raise $9.802 billion over ten years.

(Aha! So there it is, the money line. ALWAYS follow the money. It is never about anything else no matter what they tell you. -- j)
 
The anti-freedom Democtrats are at it again coming up with still one more way to spy on all of us.

Oh yeah Jim, it's the democrats that want to do all the spying. :rofl3:

Funny stuff.

Got any info on this from a real site?
 
So if this passes, the bad guys will use cash to buy weapons and drugs... kind of like they do now.
 
dunno, but I'd like to see a bull whip taken to chris dodd.
I'd just about pay to see it, then kick him to the curb, and run him out on a rail.
 
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This
tin·foil also tin foil
Audio Help (tĭn'foil') Pronunciation Key
n. A thin, pliable sheet of aluminum or of tin-lead alloy, used as a protective wrapping.

Preferred/primary usage: tinfoil. Secondary usage: tin foil. Thus the word "also".

The improper use of a word -- witness "irregardless" / "regardless" or "tortuous" / "torturous" -- will make it into the lexicon once enough people misuse it. That does not make it proper. The dictionaries always say "also" or "see also" or "see <proper usage>.

Showing the word as being listed in the dictionary does not negate the fact that it got there through widespread misuse; and that misuse will always appear as the secondary "also" usage.
 
Preferred/primary usage: tinfoil. Secondary usage: tin foil. Thus the word "also".

The improper use of a word -- witness "irregardless" / "regardless" or "tortuous" / "torturous" -- will make it into the lexicon once enough people misuse it. That does not make it proper. The dictionaries always say "also" or "see also" or "see <proper usage>.

Showing the word as being listed in the dictionary does not negate the fact that it got there through widespread misuse; and that misuse will always appear as the secondary "also" usage.

Translation: If the dictionary shows it and it supports your side, awesome. If the dictionary shows it and it doesn't support your side, then it got there through widespread misuse.

Got it! :wink2:
 
LOL.
Jim, you really are priceless, aincha?

FTR, alternates can also be American vs English spelling, but nevermind. You is right, we is all wrong. :tardbang:
 
One word, chcr, tinfoil.

Either way, get some. I suggest wrapping it especially tightly around the nose and mouth area because that's how the spores get in. I think some two inch packaging tape will serve to hold it in place quite well.

:tardbang:
 
Translation: If the dictionary shows it and it supports your side, awesome. If the dictionary shows it and it doesn't support your side, then it got there through widespread misuse.

Got it! :wink2:

Got it in one.
 
I suppose in order to keep pace with the jimses I should post at least five or six more responses to my own posts here instead of putting everything economically into one?
 
Words can also mean feelings, or all manner of non-things... unless you only learned about nouns.
 
Words can also mean feelings, or all manner of non-things... unless you only learned about nouns.

Then you have a lot to learn. Yes, they can mean nothing; and nothing is a word that means "no thing" which refers to ... a thing. Not a noun, either.

I will repeat my earlier post. See if you can get past your hangup on things being nouns long enough understand what "things" means as used in the post.

Words

mean

things
 
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