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School offers morning-after pill to 11-year-olds
By Sarah Womack
(Filed: 28/09/2002)


Girls as young as 11 will be able to obtain the morning-after pill at a London school without their parents' consent.

If the scheme at Chestnut Grove School in Balham is successful, it could be extended to every secondary school in Wandsworth, a borough which has the fifth highest teenage pregnancy rate in inner London.

Margaret Peacock, the headmistress, said her school was trying to behave responsibly.

She said under-16s could already obtain the pill without their parents' consent from hospital accident and emergency units and pharmacies.

"The school governors thought it would be better for children to receive counselling from the school nurse at the same time. If the child is under age, loud bells will ring and the case will be treated as a child protection issue."

Social services could be involved, although under current law, parents do not need to be informed.

Government figures in July showed that four girls of 10 had become mothers. The figures covered three years - 1998, 1999 and 2000 - and showed that another 23 girls of 11 had become pregnant and about 400 under-14s had conceived.

Sheila Crouch, Chestnut Grove's nurse, said: "If a pupil comes to me for advice about emergency contraception I can only inform them of relevant clinics. This delays the process. The sooner the young person takes the first dose of the Levonelle-2 pill the more likely it is to prevent a pregnancy."

The mother of one 12-year-old pupil said: "I was horrified. They're trying to take away any control that parents have.

"If you're going to give children an easy option it's not teaching anybody how to be responsible or accountable for their actions.

"I don't believe it will be handed out regardless, but it's a very sad sign of the times."
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I find pretty much all of this to be disturbing for one reason or another.
 
sad sign of the times, our teenage pregnancy rate is one of the highest in europe and various educational programmes seem to have failed. many of the methods being proposed have come through looking as systems in place in countries with low teenage pregnancy rates, the netherlands in particular.
 
Luis G said:
might be good thing, Europe needs young people ;)
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NO it is NOT. Having children at 14 isn't fun, isn't responsible, and you are playing with someone's live. If you don't want children, don't fuck. Condoms and pills made it waaaay to easy, and if something breaks, we either murder the kid or give it up for adoption. I'm sorry, but this news is sickening and shows how our society is morally corrupt.
 
the problem is mainly kids who aren't using any contraception at all, worrying given what they are taught in school - you would think it might stick in their brain even a tiny amount.
 
Don't give the kids sex education at school!!!! Let the parents do it! It is the parent's job, not the government's.
 
LastLegionary said:
If you don't want children, don't fuck. Condoms and pills made it waaaay to easy
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just because you are making the effort of not having sex, it doesn't mean everybody else should.
 
the government here has taken a stance of educating in that area to try to reduce teenage pregnancy. i don't see a problem with it, especially if it can achieve its aim.

not everyone gets the quality of upbringing that you have. don't take it for granted that your parenting and resulting morality is standard, you probly had it a lot better than most.
 
Perhaps, but you are taking an action right? And every action has a consequence. Unless you are willing to deal with a consequence in a respectable and honorable way, don't do it. Thats my motto. Every action I've ever taken I was willing to take the consequence.

That is like killing someone and complaining they sentence you to death or live in prison. You took an action and are not willing to take the consequences of that action. That is not honorable for me, and I will never do it.
 
ris said:
the government here has taken a stance of educating in that area to try to reduce teenage pregnancy. i don't see a problem with it, especially if it can achieve its aim.
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So instead the wonderful trusty government upped the teenage pregnancy rates to all time highs...

not everyone gets the quality of upbringing that you have. don't take it for granted that your parenting and resulting morality is standard, you probly had it a lot better than most.
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Yes I agree, but there are lots and lots your conscience tell you. The first time you slept with a girl, and be HONEST with YOURSELF, was there something that told you don't do it? Is there something that tells you don't steal other than the law? What about murder? Does your heart tell you not to do something? Mine certainly does, and I value it a lot. There are lots of poor people that have a good sense of moral conduct and are honorable. I've seen it in many countries. And there are people from dysfunctional families that also have good and honorable conduct. It is harder, but by no means impossible or an excuse not to take the consequences of your actions.
 
peer pressure, ignorance and a lack of education can do an awful lot of damage.

given that other countries have even earlier and far reaching sex education programmes [again, teh netherlands as example] and have the lowest rates in europe i cannot see that increased eduation is cause of the rise in teenage pregnancies.
 
ris said:
the government here has taken a stance of educating in that area to try to reduce teenage pregnancy. i don't see a problem with it, especially if it can achieve its aim.

not everyone gets the quality of upbringing that you have. don't take it for granted that your parenting and resulting morality is standard, you probly had it a lot better than most.
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I'm not so sure that your average 10 y/o's have the capacity to absorb such warnings/teachings. They are in the middle of the sheer 'impulse' years. Rationality and consequence are rarely in the picture ... and thats for average kids. I dare say that the lionshare of these superyoung kids are below average.
 
incidentally, the first time i slept with a woman it was because i cared for her a great deal, and her me. i probly loved her but never admitted it to her, or myself for a long time.
we were very middle-aged and discussed what we would do. call it sensible, call it boring, but we knew what it entailed and we understood what it meant to both of us.

peer pressure has a great deal to play though, fortunately i had nice friends who didn't spend their days telling me i should be shagging her. i have seen it happen to others though and i can imagine what it does.
 
This is even more horrifying to me, having a 10 year old niece. This is the same kid who said to me, "I can't let boys know that I'm not afraid of bugs because then they won't like me and I'll never get married." :eek:
 
I feel your pain Gonz, but somehow I have a feeling that with the values you undoubtedly instill in him, he's going to have a MUCH better chance of turning out right.

I have a 9 year old nephew too, but he's so sweetly oblivious so far. The girl is who I worry about, already talking about marraige and how she has to pretend she's someone she's not to fit in. *sigh*
 
9-year-olds are all oblivious, (well 99.999%) but I DO see it coming.


LL, that's your job. Being a parent is far different.
 
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