The epidemic of school violence...

Gato_Solo

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School violence fell 50 percent over past decade

Young people more often targeted away from school


WASHINGTON - Violent crime against students in schools fell by 50 percent between 1992 and 2002, with young people more often targeted for violence away from school.

There were about 24 crimes of rape, sexual assault, robbery and physical assault for every 1,000 students in 2002, down from 48 per 1,000 a decade earlier, according to a report Monday from the Education and Justice departments.

The reduction mirrored the trend found outside classrooms — overall crime is at a 30-year low across the nation.

The report found instances of school violence involving students have dropped steadily since a string of fatal shootings in the 1990s, notably the 1999 killings of 13 people at Columbine High School in Colorado by two heavily armed students.

So...what does this mean?

Perhaps that people have reached their limit with 'feel-good' stuff, and want to bring back discipline?
 
The NY Times had a typical stymied headline the other day. Something like "Jails fuller than ever despite crime falling for tenth straight year". They don't get the fact that maybe with the bad guys locked up, we're safer.
 
Gonz said:
The NY Times had a typical stymied headline the other day. Something like "Jails fuller than ever despite crime falling for tenth straight year". They don't get the fact that maybe with the bad guys locked up, we're safer.
I love it when papers do that....'spose thats Journalism though, writing the obvious then sensationalising it. I for one, over here at least, wouldn't mind the return of punishment in schools. Don't know how that would go down with the current 'screw you...no sue you' mentality in the US though....can't see it being anything but a good thing if it did go ahead though.
 
Gato_Solo said:
So...what does this mean?

Perhaps that people have reached their limit with 'feel-good' stuff, and want to bring back discipline?



it could be, but I think the fact they are looking at it and trying to find other solutions are helping plus the fact students seem to be better now that they maybe trying to accept others among other factors. Discipline is a major factor as long as it isnt abused
 
I'll reserve judgment on any perceived decrease in school violence for awhile. Maybe no one else has noticed, but I have noticed that these things tend to increase near the end of the school year. Think about it....between graduation, proms, and all the other social events of the school calendar that happen in the final two months of a typical nine-month school calendar, the likelihood of "rejection/failure" increases then as well. It's always been my contention that some of these shootings are a direct or indirect product of either social rejection or academic failure suffered by the shooter(s). The prom date never materialized; the Chem final went south; the scholarships didn't get offered. I could be wrong, but that's what I noticed anyway. So I'll wait a while before I pronounce it dead or dying.
 
when I did the paper this semester, I found that there was a number of causes for it though I did not find the Academic failures as one.Though I did find the social rejections/bullying as a cause.



I will put the paper up on here as an attachement if anyone would like to read it. Warning that it is long though
 
Gato_Solo said:
So...what does this mean?

Perhaps that people have reached their limit with 'feel-good' stuff, and want to bring back discipline?
Perhaps its the other side of the coin. Instead of discipline perhaps the younger generation is a bunch of emasculated pussies devoid of the ability to take such actions. Other thoughts might be a 'bread and circuses' approach. The power and availability of computers, gaming consoles, and high speed internet might all be coming together and helping prevent your usually bored and lonely psychopath from becoming too lonely and going postal... or at least keeping them doughy enough so they can't put up too much of a struggle.
 
you could be right but even if that was the case, they could still get weapons and even out the odds
 
unclehobart said:
or at least keeping them doughy enough so they can't put up too much of a struggle.
LM-doughy-AO @ Unc!


One thing you mentioned is the differing effects of watching or hearing about violence and actually 'witnessing' it. I think Postcode could elaborate just how large the difference really is.

Remember those two kids that stole their Grandpas guns and went to the school and let fly? One of the weapons was an M-1 Garand (I think the other was an M-1 carbine) ya know, the cha-ching rifle from saving private Ryan the one that shoots 30.06 rounds!
Having fired that particular weapon I must say them boyz certainly had the 'tools for the job' that day.
 
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