The Worlds Policemen

[PT]

Ok, there have been a few threads around lately about the US being the worlds policemen. Another about not letting non North Atlantic countries join NATO. Should there be a World Police?

 

[Ardsgaine]

Originally posted by PuterTutor
Ok, there have been a few threads around lately about the US being the worlds policemen. Another about not letting non North Atlantic countries join NATO. Should there be a World Police?

No.

Policeman need to be held in check by a government that is designed to protect individual rights. But even if we had a world government that was ideally constituted for that purpose, I would not think it a good idea. Governments can drift towards tyranny and there's no reason to put all of humanity's eggs into one basket. Besides the logistics of governing the entire world would be a bit much right now.

Maybe after we've colonised the solar system, we could think about a single government for Earth...

 

[Ardsgaine]

Btw, I didn't vote in the poll, because I disagreed with all your choices. The third one came closest, but I don't consider it anarchy for there to be no world police.

 

[PT]

You don't believe that we need to be policed?

I think we all do.

The majority of people are good, decent people, however, even good, decent people will do some pretty horific things if they know they won't be punished for it. This goes along the same lines of why I think we need a World Police. Yes, it would be very difficult to set moralities for the entire world to follow, but I think there are a few basics that are universal.

 

[Jeslek]

The sad thing is that the world expect the US to actually BE the policemen, but they (EU, NATO, UN specifically) want to be the police chief, commanding and ordering around.

There should be NO international policemen. NO international. It will infringe on the Sovereignity of the States which is COMPLETELY unacceptable, and there is NO way to keep the police in check.

 

[Ardsgaine]

Originally posted by PuterTutor
You don't believe that we need to be policed?

What I said was that we don't need a world police. That was the question, wasn't it?

 

[PT]

Yes, technically it was, but I see a future that will require world policing. The US is already doing it to a certain extent, under the UN's guide, of course.

I guess what I'm getting at is that I think we need to figure something out that will work for all countries, all cultures, without pissing anyone off too badly. Any ideas?

 

[sbcanada]

Originally posted by LastLegionary

There should be NO international policemen. It will infringe on the Sovereignity of the States which is COMPLETELY unacceptable, and there is NO way to keep the police in check.

I agree. Countries like to have their own rules. You can't have a world police without having a one world government.

:bikr:

 

[HomeLAN]

I guess what I'm getting at is that I think we need to figure something out that will work for all countries, all cultures, without pissing anyone off too badly. Any ideas?

Great idea, that! I hope somebody here can come up with a way to make it work, because the leaders of nations have been completely unable to do so. Maybe because it unfortunately can't be done.

 

[Ardsgaine]

Originally posted by PuterTutor
I guess what I'm getting at is that I think we need to figure something out that will work for all countries, all cultures, without pissing anyone off too badly. Any ideas?

The only way for billions of people to get along amicably is if each one sees himself as an individual rather than as a member of some splinter group within the larger community. For that you need a particular philosophical foundation. Namely, one that emphasizes the objective nature of reality and man's ability to reason as a unifying characteristic of humanity. Each individual must be viewed as an end in himself, rather than as a means to the ends of society, the tribe or the state.

The philosophy which prevails in the world today tells us that reality is subjective. What's true depends on the collective beliefs of some group. There may be different truths for different groups, and no way to resolve the differences between them, since there is no objective reality to appeal to and reason may function differently for different people. Since reality is determined by the group, the individual must conform to the group. The group determines what is good, and the ultimate good is the good of the group. It is this good that the individual must therefore serve. His purpose in life is to serve the collective.

"Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated."