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Why in the hell would we be looking to buy AK-47s for Iraq? :retard:


Dem Senators Question Iraq Rifles Purchase


Jan 7, 8:49 PM (ET)
By LARRY MARGASAK

WASHINGTON (AP) - Two Democratic senators asked the U.S. occupation authority in Iraq on Wednesday to explain its intended purchase of up to 50,000 AK-47 assault rifles for Iraq security forces, when they said the country is filled with such weapons.

The September solicitation to contractors sought prices for up to 50,000 "brand new, never fired, fixed stock" weapons made in 1987 or later.

"We question whether this is an efficient use of U.S. taxpayer dollars in a country already awash with AK-47s, many of which have been confiscated by coalition forces and are sitting in stockpiles," Sens. Byron Dorgan of North Dakota and Ron Wyden of Oregon wrote L. Paul Bremer III, head of the U.S. governing authority.

The senators cited news reports that the captured weapons are in excellent condition, and said there would be little cost involved to distribute them to security forces.

Wyden and Dorgan said that last summer, the Coalition Provisional Authority purchased tens of thousands of AK-47 rifles and other weapons from dealers in Jordan and other countries.

The senators asked Bremer how many confiscated rifles are currently in U.S. custody and whether they are suitable for use by Iraqi security personnel.

They also asked for the identity of contractors awarded orders so far, the cost of the purchases and the countries of the sellers.

This is not the first time weapons purchases by the governing authority were questioned.

In September, according to The New York Times, the Iraqi Governing Council questioned why the occupation authority had issued a $20 million contract to buy new revolvers and Kalashnikov rifles for the Iraqi police when the U.S. military was confiscating tens of thousands of weapons every month from abandoned arsenals.

Dorgan, in a joint interview with Wyden, said, "The administrator (Bremer) needs to lay out if this is justifiable. There's no evidence they considered using confiscated weapons."

Wyden added, "If the answers are unsatisfactory, the two us will consider going to the Senate floor and offering an amendment" to cut reconstruction funds.

The two senators sponsored an amendment last fall that cut $1.86 billion from an Iraq spending bill, including a $200 million reduction for the purchase of petroleum products. The cuts were retained when President Bush signed the measure.
 
i can tell you why...because the people that collect all these weapons for disposal or whatever and the people that need these weapons are not talking to each other. the supply system is a very rigid and set in stone system...there are proper places to aquire such things...safety reasons or whatever,,,at least the navy system, which i dealt with for 5 1/2 years was that way :eh:
 
I figure the Iraqis refused to accept M-16s after seeing how many of them malfunctioned in the war..:shrug:
 
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Oz said:
At a rough guess.......tis prolly the cheapest and most easily available ammunition :shrugs: :confused:

Cheapest?,remember we're talking Military and or Haliburton,neither knows or takes that in to consideration :winkkiss:
 
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A.B.Normal said:
Cheapest?,remember we're talking Military and or Haliburton,neither knows or takes that in to consideration :winkkiss:


True........I made the mistake of using common sense :nerd:
 
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The AK can be chambered for different rounds, including 9mm ammo. The most common ammo worldwide.
 
The AK-74 is also cheaper in it's own right. Figure, in bulk, they're only about $250 each...:shrug:

BTW...Squiggy...the M-16 doesn't malfunction like it used to. We're a long way from Viet Nam now. ;)
 
I watched a TV special a while ago that said the malfunctions of the M-16 in Iraq was astronomical. They went on to say that the lube supplied by the DOD was the cause. It collected sand. Several soldiers had ordered an alternative lube paying for it out of their own pockets and the DOD blocked shipment of the alternative lube. Making the soldiers HAVE to use the lube that was causing the malfunctions.
 
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Squiggy said:
I watched a TV special a while ago that said the malfunctions of the M-16 in Iraq was astronomical. They went on to say that the lube supplied by the DOD was the cause. It collected sand. Several soldiers had ordered an alternative lube paying for it out of their own pockets and the DOD blocked shipment of the alternative lube. Making the soldiers HAVE to use the lube that was causing the malfunctions.

I heard that the lube was causing problems, but I also shipped several con-ex's of other lube through Kuwait, so the problem with the lube was taken care of by the DoD. The reason the soldiers weren't permitted to buy their own was because a shipment was forthcoming, and the 1351-2 claims would've been astronomical. ;)

BTW...the other lube collected sand as well. Just not as much.
 
The frustrating part was that the Army conducted tests that showed the alternative lube was far superior but the DOD ignored the report and renewed the contract with the original company to supply lube....:cuss:
 
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Squiggy said:
The frustrating part was that the Army conducted tests that showed the alternative lube was far superior but the DOD ignored the report and renewed the contract with the original company to supply lube....:cuss:

Two words...Government Contract. I believe that, if they'd've given the contract to the other company from the start, folks would be bitching about the savings with the original lube. It's just human nature.
 
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