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washingtonpost.com
GOP Chairman Walks Out of Meeting

By JIM ABRAMS
The Associated Press
Friday, June 10, 2005; 11:03 PM



WASHINGTON -- The Republican chairman walked off with the gavel, leaving Democrats shouting into turned-off microphones at a raucous hearing Friday on the Patriot Act.

The House Judiciary Committee hearing, with the two sides accusing each other of being irresponsible and undemocratic, came as President Bush was urging Congress to renew those sections of the post-Sept. 11 counterterrorism law set to expire in September.

Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., chairman of the panel, abruptly gaveled the meeting to an end and walked out, followed by other Republicans. Sensenbrenner declared that much of the testimony, which veered into debate over the detainees at Guantanamo Bay, was irrelevant.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., protested, raising his voice as his microphone went off, came back on, and went off again.

"We are not besmirching the honor of the United States, we are trying to uphold it," he said.

Democrats asked for the hearing, the 11th the committee has held on the act since April, saying past hearings had been too slanted toward witnesses who supported the law. The four witnesses were from groups, including Amnesty International USA and the American Immigration Lawyers Association, that have questioned the constitutionality of some aspects of the act, which allows law enforcement greater authority to investigate suspected terrorists.

Nadler said Sensenbrenner, one of the authors of the Patriot Act, was "rather rude, cutting everybody off in mid-sentence with an attitude of total hostility."

Tempers flared when Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., accused Amnesty International of endangering the lives of Americans in uniform by referring to the prison at Guantanamo Bay as a "gulag." Sensenbrenner didn't allow the Amnesty representative, Chip Pitts, to respond until Nadler raised a "point of decency."

Sensenbrenner's spokesman, Jeff Lungren, said the hearing had lasted two hours and "the chairman was very accommodating, giving members extra time."

James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute, speaking immediately after Sensenbrenner left, voiced dismay over the proceedings. "I'm troubled about what kind of lesson this gives" to the rest of the world, he told the Democrats remaining in the room.

House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, in a statement, said the hearing was an example of Republican abuse of power and she would ask House Speaker Dennis Hastert to order an apology from Sensenbrenner.

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So what do we do with the detainees that their home countries don't want back? I raised this question elsewhere, and all I got were jokes. They aren't an army...never were. They aren't civilians...civilians aren't captured on battlefields with weapons. They aren't spies...spies try to stay away from set battles. If all of these groups against Guantanamo Bay are so sure those people are innocent, why don't they open their homes to them, and agree to take respopnsibility for their actions? It would definitely solve that problem, wouldn't it...:devious:
 
C'Mon Grotto Man!
You know the obvious answer.

Why, set them free of course!

We can not kill them.

We can't imprison them for life,
so...

we gotta let them go in to the wild to do whatever the hell they want!

What the heck would you recommend become of these folks???

Shot them out of hand on the battlefield???
 
Winky said:
C'Mon Grotto Man!
You know the obvious answer.


Shot them out of hand on the battlefield???
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Totally legal, according to the Geneva Convention...
 
It is no wonder he shut down a meeting that would include
futher muckers that say shiite like this.
Patriot act? Someone should jail this klown.
*putting the 'riot in patriot!*
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An excerpt from a statement by William F. Schulz Executive Director, Amnesty International USA

If the US government continues to shirk its responsibility, Amnesty International calls on foreign governments to uphold their obligations under international law by investigating all senior US officials involved in the torture scandal. And if those investigations support prosecution, the governments should arrest any official who enters their territory and begin legal proceedings against them. The apparent high-level architects of torture should think twice before planning their next vacation to places like Acapulco or the French Riviera because they may find themselves under arrest as Augusto Pinochet famously did in London in 1998.
 
The detainees whose original country doesn't want to reintroduce to the mainstream shoul dbe put on a plane to their country. Once th eplane has landed, they may be refused by their native land but as long as they're off US soil, it's not our problem.

Actually, considering where Gitmo is, let them out of prison. Castro would be happy to have them.
 
Gonz said:
Actually, considering where Gitmo is, let them out of prison. Castro would be happy to have them.
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That's what I was thinking. I thought maybe there was some reason I didn't know about why we couldn't.
 
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