To what extent

Gonz

Gonz

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will you go to further your agenda?

This is a synopsis put out by group A today
NEW YORK (AP) - The debate over Dr. Robert Atkins' popular high-fat, low-carb diet flared posthumously Tuesday when it was learned that Atkins himself was a bloated 258 pounds at his death.

A city medical examiner's report filed after Atkins' 2003 death from a fall showed the 6-foot doctor was at a weight normally considered obese. A physicians group that is highly critical of the diet released details of the report, claiming the Atkins diet led to weight and heart troubles for its 72-year-old creator.

The medical examiner's report also noted that Atkins had a history of heart trouble, including congestive heart failure and high blood pressure.
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This is the short truth
Atkins weighed 195 pounds when he was admitted, the group's chairman said.

The Atkins Physicians Council said the carbohydrate-shunning doctor gained more than 60 pounds through fluid retention in the eight days he spent in a coma before dying last April. He had slipped on an icy street and hit his head.
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This is the rest of the story:

The group that illegally obtained Dr Atkins autopsy files is
Physicians for Responsible Medicine, the group that released the report and promotes a vegetarian diet
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Ok, so they have an agenda against high fat diets you say.





Wrong obese meat eater Kenobi. This group is a front for our pals & fellow believers in law & order, PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals)

Can we shoot them NOW?
 
Don't have the link, but the people who released this report have been linked positively with PETA.

what a suprise
 
You know, I could possibly understand doing things to further one's agenda. But something as rediculous (not to mention disrespectful) as this is just .... stupid. Halftruths are one thing, but this is about as stretched as it can be.

And to think of Mrs. Atkins having to constantly defend her husband against such piddly things. :(
 
Rose said:
You know, I could possibly understand doing things to further one's agenda. But something as rediculous (not to mention disrespectful) as this is just .... stupid. Halftruths are one thing, but this is about as stretched as it can be.

And to think of Mrs. Atkins having to constantly defend her husband against such piddly things. :(
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Sorry Rose, no such thing as "half-truths." Just a doublespeak way of making lies sound more palatable.

Gonz, you know as well as I that most political entities will stop at nothing to advance their agenda.
 
How's that, chcr? I'd call it a half-truth. I mean, it is true that at the time of his death he was overweight enough to be considered obese. However that's only half of it since the weight was gained in a matter of days due to fluid buildup.
 
See, I call that a lie of omission. That would be telling part of the truth in order to mislead, and that would be a lie. The worst lies contain enough truth to make tham believable at face value. That's what makes them insidious. They remain lies, they are diberately meant to mislead. On the other hand, a total fabrication would not be a lie if the fabricator believed it to be the truth. In error, but not a lie. A lie is a statement intended to deceive, regardless of how accurate the information is.
 
I think we'll have to see differently on this one. Because I consider telling partial truth in order to mislead as a halftruth - as bad as a lie, but a lie is not true. Although, I concede that "halftruth" or any variation isn't technically a word, as my Webster's is letting me know. But I think "halfcocked" can be used in place ... ;)
 
lie said:
1 a : an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker to be untrue with intent to deceive b : an untrue or inaccurate statement that may or may not be believed true by the speaker
2 : something that misleads or deceives
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And of course, being reasonably intelligent people, looks like we're both right, and that's the truth. :D
 
chcr said:
See, I call that a lie of omission. That would be telling part of the truth in order to mislead, and that would be a lie. The worst lies contain enough truth to make tham believable at face value. That's what makes them insidious. They remain lies, they are diberately meant to mislead. On the other hand, a total fabrication would not be a lie if the fabricator believed it to be the truth. In error, but not a lie. A lie is a statement intended to deceive, regardless of how accurate the information is.
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Are you defining "is"?
 
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