Trouble in Hillaryland?

jimpeel

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It appears that even those who are inclined to vote FOR her are concerned about hoiw she would comport herself as president.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=anRcoLyfN0VM

Tension in Hillaryland Grows as Plan Goes Awry: Albert R. Hunt

By Albert R. Hunt

Dec. 10 (Bloomberg) -- To appreciate Hillary Clinton's fundamental political problem, consider the 11 Democrats from Philadelphia who gathered last week to discuss the U.S. presidential race, almost all of whom would vote for her in a general election.

The focus group was moderated by an expert on such forums, Democratic pollster Peter Hart. The participants were informed and enthusiastic about their party's prospects, had no interest in the Republicans or third-party candidates, and were about equally balanced between front-runners Clinton and Senator Barack Obama of Illinois.

When Hart pushed the group during a two-hour conversation about the strengths and weaknesses of the two candidates, a different picture emerged.

Obama, they worried, can't win the nomination; voters aren't ready for an African-American president (a point expressed most directly by the two black women participants), and he may not be sufficiently experienced.

A couple of victories in Iowa and New Hampshire would cure most of those problems.

The concerns about Clinton, 60, a New York senator, are that she is devious, calculating and, fairly or not, a divisive figure in American politics.

Those are a lot tougher to overcome.

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the news is that maybe, just maybe, the dems have started to realize that hillary really sucks as a candidate because everything thinks that she's king kamehameha beyotch.
 
Ah yes. 11 declared democrats, moderated by a declared democrat can't possibly reflect .... democrats.
 
it really is news, then. at the maximum ideological density of "democrat" they are actually realizing she's a cunt.
 
Ah yes. 11 declared democrats, moderated by a declared democrat can't possibly reflect .... democrats.

I can't imagine 11 people being much of a representation of anything. If they're just about all voting Hillary you're already not representative.

If almost all of tem are voting for her lots of candidates would embrace that kind of "Trouble in Candidate-land" though.
 
On the one hand, she's supposed to be a tough, experienced leader ready for any challenge... but on the other hand, she's a poor, oppressed woman.
 
It's the persona she tries to take on when mean Mr. Obama and mean Mr. Edwards, etc. gang up and pick on her.
 
Huh, never saw her do that. Iremember her saying something about them going after because she was the front runer though.
 
I can't imagine 11 people being much of a representation of anything. If they're just about all voting Hillary you're already not representative.

If almost all of tem are voting for her lots of candidates would embrace that kind of "Trouble in Candidate-land" though.

Is that what you got from that article? I got the impression that they were considering voting for her ... simply because they intended to vote democrate, not because they wanted 'her'.
 
Hey, Oprah's backing Obama. That probably evaporated a good third of Hilary's support base right there.
 
It's the persona she tries to take on when mean Mr. Obama and mean Mr. Edwards, etc. gang up and pick on her.

Slick likened it to "swiftboating" her.


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Hillary just doesn't like it.
 
Is that what you got from that article? I got the impression that they were considering voting for her ... simply because they intended to vote democrate, not because they wanted 'her'.

I got that out of these 11 people most will be voting for her. Voting for the lesser evil? That wouldn't be anything new.
 
Huh, never saw her do that. Iremember her saying something about them going after because she was the front runer though.

From what I can find online, it seems like the Clinton campaign is trying to play the "oppressed woman" card...

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/31/a-day-later-clinton-embraces-spitzers-license-effort/


Or this:
"They really went from 'Let's talk about what I believe' to 'Let me try to do a gotcha against Hillary Clinton,' " said one Clinton adviser, speaking on the condition of anonymity. "Ultimately, it was six guys against her, and she came off as one strong woman."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/31/AR2007103103093.html?hpid=topnews

Or this...
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2007/11/obama_accuses_clinton_of_hidin.php

It just seems to me that she's trying to use get gender as a crutch.

FTR, I really don't like the idea of driver's licenses for illegal immigrants, which, as mentioned in some of the articles, she finally decided to come out in favor of.
 
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