What the f&%k!?

Aunty Em

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When I got to Asda (Wal-mart) this morning there were 3 police riot vans parked out front. I asked if maybe they were expecting a disagreement over the bacon counter. :lol: But I think there must be a "peace" march in town today up near the garrison - guess who's keeping out the way! S'pose I better check the local paper on Monday.


title edited: sorry G
 
a story from Thursday
Students drop books, take to streets against war
By Charisse Jones USA TODAY

Several thousand high school and college students from New York to California took to the streets Wednesday, walking out of classes to protest a possible war with Iraq.

In Chicago, about 1,000 people rallied at Federal Plaza downtown. Jesse Jackson compared the protests to the student sit-ins at Woolworth's during the civil rights movement in the 1960s.

In New York City, hundreds of students chanting ''Drop books not bombs'' gathered in Union Square before making their way uptown to Hunter College, where they held an anti-war rally.

About 1,500 demonstrators protested at Pennsylvania State University in State College, then submitted petitions asking local council members to speak out against an invasion.

A throng of students demonstrated at Marquette University in Milwaukee, while about 500 set aside their textbooks at the University of Maryland in College Park and marched out of their classrooms.

The walkout was part of a national day of protest, organized to build on the momentum sparked Feb. 15, when tens of thousands of Americans and millions around the world protested proposed military action in Iraq.

Mirroring those global demonstrations, thousands of students also protested Wednesday in Spain, Britain and Sweden.

Though the demonstrations in the USA were non-violent, 18 people were arrested for blocking a Los Angeles intersection. About 500 students demonstrated in front of Venice High School, and 1,000 students staged a protest at Santa Monica City College.

Turnout was sparse in some places, and some students demonstrated in support of a war. In Oxford, Ohio, about 125 students gathered in a light rain for a demonstration at Miami University.

At Texas Christian University in Fort Worth, fewer than a dozen people gathered in front of the campus' Student Center for a short rally, at which a guitarist sang anti-war songs.

But in other parts of the country, teenagers and college students toted placards with their backpacks to protest.

''I am not a fan of Saddam Hussein,'' said Sam Brook, 24, a New York University law student. ''But what we need to articulate is whether or not a war is going to benefit anyone. Even if we kicked out Saddam, what would follow him? And how many people are we going to kill in the process?''

Jessica Kibblewhite, 17, a senior at Chicago's Lincoln Park High School, said: ''I can't vote yet, so I have no power, no voice. But I feel insulted by (President) Bush, and I have no other way to be heard.''

While some students said they risked detention or suspension for walking out of class, many others said they had permission from their teachers and parents.

''I don't know if all parents support cutting school for it, but my parents agree with what we're doing,'' said Sabrina Howell, 17, a junior at New York's Stuyvesant High School who skipped physics to march downtown. ''I think they're very supportive because they participated in the Vietnam War protests.''

The Vietnam conflict was evoked often Wednesday, be it the black armbands with the word ''Peace'' or the occasional placard proclaiming ''Make love not war.''

''I am definitely inspired by the student movement during the Vietnam War,'' said Elyse Liebovitch, 20, a sophomore at NYU. ''Seeing pictures and hearing stories from back then always amazed me. I always wanted to be a part of something like that and experience what it was like. Unfortunately, now I am.''

The first paragraph looks like it was Vietnam all over again. One of the radio talkshow guys ran the numbers. It averaged 3.2% of the student body of each respective school. The highest percentage was Rice with a whopping 5%. This ain't your daddies protests. :D

Why are they protesting at Asda? Are they supplying ammunition for the troops?
 
They weren't protesting at Asda... it looked to me like the cops were taking the opportunity of having an al fresco lunch before going off to do the business i.e. they were in their "battle wagons" hogging into some sandwiches and stuff. :)

Not in full gear I might add, just the body armour and side batons with a few helmets lying about. It's not often you see riot vans around here, in fact I've NEVER seen them in the flesh before, so it was a bit startling for such a normally quiet town. Hence the wisecracks from me.

Oh, and they were also parked on some double-yellows (no parking zone), but I guess it's difficult to point that out to 3 van fulls of tooled up cops....
 
You know, here at MTSU a TBI agent was taking names of the people who spoke at the protest. The official position is that he over stepped his authority, but it sure makes me wonder. Oh, and Squiggy, the police are probably there to protect the protestors. Two words: Kent State.

P.S. Not that both sides don't have their share of idiots.
 
i must have lived in cardiff too long, we often saw meat vans full of coppers on a friday and if cardiff city are playing at home or there is rugby on they always come in riot gear.

seen plenty of trouble from wanker bloobirds fans when millwall and bristol city come up. and leeds, and plymouth argyle, and bristol rovers, and swansea...shit, pretty much anyone really.
 
I don't have a problem with protestors (after all, they're exercising their right to free speech), but I would like to see more protestors who have realistic ideas, expectations, and solutions to the current situation(s). Just saying "no war in Iraq!" isn't enough. How would these protestors solve the problem of Saddam potentially passing WMD to terrorist organizations? Give inspectors more time? Remember that there wouldn't even be inspectors in Iraq now if the US hadn't parked a rather large invasion force just outside Saddam's borders.

That's my opinion, anyway..
 
You know...I have a couple relatives who were Vietnam war protesters back in the day...and then on to whatever cause of the day they could find until they reached the age where they realized they actually needed money and a place to live...

..and I have talked to them at great length about the rallies and marches going on today.

It seems we agree on one thing...which is rare when I speak with these folks of mine....and that is the feeling that these media splashed deals seem to be manufactured and.....fake? The slogans and signs look like they''re made by slick Madison Ave. ad agencies, and all the people you see and hear from look and sound like professionals....

It's as if there are a few notable "protest executives" sitting in some office orchestrating things. We all laughed about this news bit where they showed this couple in photos who had been to about 7 different rallies around the world. All dressed up in their hemp peace suits with signs asking for jobs not war....

...and we're all wondering..how do these people get from DC to London to New Zealand to Seattle and to Mexico in the space of a week,apparently without jobs?

It's like some kind of goddamn rock tour...

...anyway...my uncles were saying that back when they were doing their thing , it seemed like there was just more legitimacy behind it....that their message was real, and TRULY organized at the grass roots level...

...not sure how grass roots lends any legitimacy, but in any case..that's how they feel....

Maybe they miss what they were doing and are just jealous....I dunno....

..any old hippies around that can confirm or deny the notion?

MADrin
 
Mad, You only have to look at what came out of our protests to see the difference. We were old enough to kill, but not for voting...We changed that.
Womens equality, racial equality, government accountability, the Freedom of Information Act were all products of our demonstrations...
 
Y'know, that drop book not bombs thinggy sounds like a good idea to me. Let's have millions of Bill Gate's book translated and dropped all over Iraq. If that doesn't make them surrender, then we send in the Encyclopedia Britannica. Follow that up with a carpet bombing of National Geographic's African Topless issue.

Saddam doesn't have a prayer.


And if that doesn't work, we can drop a few Law books (with owners attached) onto Saddam's bunkers. The weight of those should destroy any bunker complex ever built.
 
There was indeed a peace march here yesterday, it got a mention in a national newspaper, but it obviously went off without incident as there was nothing else about.

I'll get more information tomorrow from the local paper.
 
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