Winter tires.

Professur

Professur

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Well Well. Looks like quebec might actually have a good idea. There's talk that they're gonna make it illegal to drive during winter on 4 season tires. About damn time.
 
Ah, gonz. what makes you think like that. Only a class A idiot tries to do winter with 4 seasons.
 
If your choice is buy another set of tires or don't drive, it's taxing (mandatory insurance is a tax)
 
Sad that you see it that way. I look at it more as, if you're trying to drive on 4 seasons, you're a danger to other drivers, and hence, aren't allowed to drive. Any more than you'd be allowed to drive with a foot of snow heaped on your hood.
 
If you work 2 miles from home, in the city, & all your shopping is within that radius, is it that big of a deal?
 
In sub 15C yeah, it is. You know as well as I do that cold effects stopping distance. Under -15C, 4 seasons are useless. And on any ice at all, they're useless. And in any depth of snow, they're useless.
 
Most of the US states outlaw studded tires & the few that allow them are very strict. I'm yet to drive a vehicle that the tires did squat on ice....that's why we have plows with salt
 
Gonz said:
Most of the US states outlaw studded tires & the few that allow them are very strict. I'm yet to drive a vehicle that the tires did squat on ice....that's why we have plows with salt
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Really, when I was living in upstate New York, I thought they made a huge difference. I also carried snow chains for emergencies. I knew people who didn't run snow tires, I thought them ignorant. Note that I don't use them here. It snows four or five times a year max.

Note that it takes 20 minutes to change tires, and if the roads were going to be mostly clear I would change back to regular snows.
 
i have all season performance tires on mine. i've had no problems negotiating the snow covered streets around here.
granted, it has everything to do with the car i'm driving, but if the local powers that be said i had to go out and get a set of snow tires, i think i'd be pretty miffed.
 
I am with Gonz on this one. I got all season tires on the back of my pickup and I drove through the snow quite safely even with no weight in the bed. I am too poor to afford the "tax" of having to change tires and we get usually less than one week of snow in my area a year. Studs are allowed here in winter but there is much debate and studs may likely become illegal even in winter here.
 
Glad I don't live where such things would be required - we use the same tyres all year round, just drive slower in wet conditions and make sure you allow a safe following distance (well, that's what the normal people do).

Can someone tell me what snow-chains are?
 
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Allrighty then...I guess you use them in really bad snow.............are they mandatory? How thick must the snow be? Do you get fined for not having them?
 
AlphaTroll said:
Allrighty then...I guess you use them in really bad snow.............are they mandatory? How thick must the snow be? Do you get fined for not having them?
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Most chains actually look like the set on the right in this pic:

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What they are is steel cable wrapped by many individual 1/2 to 1/4 inch aluminum cylinders.

I have never known the to be required in any snow with one exception. Sometimes mountain passes require them as a safety measure. You can use them in as little as maybe 3-4 inches so long as its compacted on the roads.
 
*stupid question*

In which way do chains help when the road has snow?? :confuse3:
 
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