Anti-gay activist took ten-day holiday with male prostitute

[valkyrie]

Ha! "Geo" is a rent boy who was looking to get paid, while Rekers was looking to satisfy his lust. There is no looking for a loving relationship. Your sympathy is misplaced.

This incident does not prove Rekers is homosexual anymore than a man committing adultery proves he is a polygamist.

A lot of men in prison have sex with other men but claim they are not homosexual. Their homosexual sex act is brought on because of their need to put their penis in something and ejaculate. With only other men available they seek other men to engage in sex with.

Rekers had an alternative path for his penis/ejaculation (his wife) and chose "Geo" instead. I think he may either be bi-sexual or he may be gay and in the closet.

Even if "Geo" was a rent boy it's possible that Rekers does not know where to find his soul-mate and was "looking for love in all the wrong places". Still, I feel sorry for the guy.

 

[spike]

As I clearly stated above.

You stated he is a hypocrite? It looked like you were arguing against that.

ProTip; check what you said about Roy Ashburn and his homosexuality as well as in this thread.

You're the first one to bring up Roy Ashburn in this thread but if he campaigned against homosexuals while hiding the fact that he was homosexual he's a moron.

There's a good documentary on the subject called Outrage.

Watch online here.

 

[spike]

Even if "Geo" was a rent boy it's possible that Rekers does not know where to find his soul-mate and was "looking for love in all the wrong places". Still, I feel sorry for the guy.

It's difficult for closeted gay public figures with an anti-gay agenda to find partners in the way that most people socialize. Probably why you see the Larry Craig airport bathroom stuff and the current Rentboy thing. Another subject talked about in the Outrage movie.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

And let me thank you for twice proving my points about your very special views of narrow bigotry and jack-boot politics.

A person is free to be gay and to believe that the rite of marriage is between a man and a woman, we conservatives like to call it "freedom of thought." --- Yet you attack him for being gay and being a free thinker, Nice.

I've again enjoyed playing with you, although I'm certain the irony eludes you.

Have a wonderful day Spike, the best you are able.

 

[spike]

And let me thank you for twice proving my points about your very special views of narrow bigotry and jack-boot politics.

What points did you prove? What views of narrow bigotry? What jack boot politics?

A person is free to be gay and to believe that the rite of marriage is between a man and a woman, we conservatives like to call it "freedom of thought." --- Yet you attack him for being gay and being a free thinker, Nice.

A person certainly is free to be gay and believe whatever they want. We liberals call it freedom of thought too.

But we're also free to point out the hypocrisy of a gay public figure with anti gay agenda or a man (in the OP) who preaches against an activity that he himself engages in. We call this "freedom to point out hypocrisy" and "funny".

Have a wonderful day Spike, the best you are able.

Thanks! Same to you.

 

[Gonz]

It is certain that he's either homosexual or bisexual as he has made it obvious that he has an attraction to males.

So you have slept with him? I don't know because I haven't slept with him & he hasn't told me he likes boys.

 

[spike]

So you have slept with him? I don't know because I haven't slept with him & he hasn't told me he likes boys.

The fact that he rented a male prostitute indicates he likes boys.

 

[Gotholic]

I imagine he could feel quite guilty about being attracted to men due to some insane religious upbringing. Doesn't make him any less of a hypocrite.

You are trying to paint him as a homosexual who supports anti-gay legislation. Indeed, if he was that then he would be a hypocrite. His sexual orientation cannot be determined by one act as it does not fit the definition.

People are more than their sexual attractions. To refer anyone as a homosexual or the akin is a reductionist way of speaking of anyone. No one is defined by their sexual attractions.

It is certain that he's either homosexual or bisexual as he has made it obvious that he has an attraction to males.

No, it is not certain. Rekers, according to the American Psychological Association, would have to have "an enduring pattern of or disposition to experience sexual, affectional, or romantic attractions primarily to" other males in order to be called a "homosexual". This cannot be determined by what was reported. Furthermore, you do not know the man.

A lot of men in prison have sex with other men but claim they are not homosexual. Their homosexual sex act is brought on because of their need to put their penis in something and ejaculate. With only other men available they seek other men to engage in sex with.

I am not sure why you brought that up. First, it is not a need but a want. Most men in prison do not have self-control/self-discipline as it is a factor as to why they are even in prison in the first place. Now, couple that with their sexual arousal and they are desperate, of course they will seek out to satisfy their carnal desires. What happens in prison is what is known as "situational homosexuality". It does not mean they are homosexual.

Rekers had an alternative path for his penis/ejaculation (his wife) and chose "Geo" instead. I think he may either be bi-sexual or he may be gay and in the closet.

There are too many unknown variables to come to any conclusion.

Even if "Geo" was a rent boy it's possible that Rekers does not know where to find his soul-mate and was "looking for love in all the wrong places". Still, I feel sorry for the guy.

I am trying to understand your logic. Do you feel sorry for married men who get caught paying for female prostitutes as well?

 

[valkyrie]

<snippety snip>

I am not sure why you brought that up. First, it is not a need but a want. Most men in prison do not have self-control/self-discipline as it is a factor as to why they are even in prison in the first place. Now, couple that with their sexual arousal and they are desperate, of course they will seek out to satisfy their carnal desires. What happens in prison is what is known as "situational homosexuality". It does not mean they are homosexual.

Need or want, I will concede to your opinion on that subject. I'm not a guy so I don't know what guys feel when they get horny.

Beside that, I'm glad you agree with me.

There are too many unknown variables to come to any conclusion.

I am trying to understand your logic. Do you feel sorry for married men who get caught paying for female prostitutes as well?

I feel sorry that he is in a relationship that he feels he must use to hide his homosexuality. His wife would be called a "beard" and his desire to reach out for male on male sex is kinda sad because he has to hide it. If he were "out" on his own he wouldn't have to hide. I find it all very sad, really. For him and his family. Living a lie is not fun, I'm sure.

Of course, we don't know if his wife knows and agrees to his seeking male partners yet. So I may be completely wrong on my view on this.

 

[Gotholic]

Need or want, I will concede to your opinion on I feel sorry that he is in a relationship that he feels he must use to hide his homosexuality. His wife would be called a "beard" and his desire to reach out for male on male sex is kinda sad because he has to hide it. If he were "out" on his own he wouldn't have to hide. I find it all very sad, really. For him and his family. Living a lie is not fun, I'm sure.

Of course, we don't know if his wife knows and agrees to his seeking male partners yet. So I may be completely wrong on my view on this.

I see. Your viewpoint of Rekers' situation stems from your perspective of the nature of homosexuality, which I respectively disagree.

 

[valkyrie]

I see. Your viewpoint of Rekers' situation stems from your perspective of the nature of homosexuality, which I respectively disagree.

No problem.

 

[Gonz]

The fact that he rented a male prostitute indicates he likes boys.

Not assures.

For allI know, he took this guy & Proselytized him into becoming a born-again.

 

[valkyrie]

Not assures.

For allI know, he took this guy & Proselytized him into becoming a born-again.

OMG, Gonz... I have this gross image in my head of Rekers banging "Geo" with a reach around yelling "cum for Jesus, Geo! Be born again!"
Thanks for that!

 

[spike]

No, it is not certain. Rekers, according to the American Psychological Association, would have to have "an enduring pattern of or disposition to experience sexual, affectional, or romantic attractions primarily to" other males in order to be called a "homosexual". This cannot be determined by what was reported. Furthermore, you do not know the man.

He's at least bisexual: "sexually attracted by both men and women"
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bisexual

 

[Gotholic]

He's at least bisexual: "sexually attracted by both men and women"
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bisexual

I rather not rely on a loose definition from the "The Free Dictionary". According to the American Psychological Association, "sexual orientation refers to an enduring pattern of emotional, romantic, and/or sexual attractions to men, women, or both sexes. Sexual orientation also refers to a person's sense of identity based on those attractions, related behaviors, and membership in a community of others who share those attractions. Research over several decades has demonstrated that sexual orientation ranges along a continuum, from exclusive attraction to the other sex to exclusive attraction to the same sex. However, sexual orientation is usually discussed in terms of three categories: heterosexual (having emotional, romantic, or sexual attractions to members of the other sex), gay/lesbian (having emotional, romantic, or sexual attractions to members of one's own sex), and bisexual (having emotional, romantic, or sexual attractions to both men and women)."

Both men deny anything sexual happened. Even if both men had a sexual encounter, it does not necessarily make Rekers a bisexual. You have insufficient information, hence you are in no position to judge.

 

[valkyrie]

I rather not rely on a loose definition from the "The Free Dictionary". According to the American Psychological Association, "sexual orientation refers to an enduring pattern of emotional, romantic, and/or sexual attractions to men, women, or both sexes. Sexual orientation also refers to a person's sense of identity based on those attractions, related behaviors, and membership in a community of others who share those attractions. Research over several decades has demonstrated that sexual orientation ranges along a continuum, from exclusive attraction to the other sex to exclusive attraction to the same sex. However, sexual orientation is usually discussed in terms of three categories: heterosexual (having emotional, romantic, or sexual attractions to members of the other sex), gay/lesbian (having emotional, romantic, or sexual attractions to members of one's own sex), and bisexual (having emotional, romantic, or sexual attractions to both men and women)."

Both men deny anything sexual happened. Even if both men had a sexual encounter, it does not necessarily make Rekers a bisexual. You have insufficient information, hence you are in no position to judge.

If Rekers willingly took part in sexual intercourse with "Geo" because he was attracted to him then we can conclude, by inference, that Rekers is bisexual. If "Geo" forced Rekers to have sexual intercourse, or had sexual intercourse with Rekers without Rekers' consent then we can not infer that Rekers is bisexual.

I'm still holding out hope that Rekers has some attraction to his wife. It would be even worse to think that he was still with her if he wasn't and just using her as a front.

 

[Gotholic]

If Rekers willingly took part in sexual intercourse with "Geo" because he was attracted to him then we can conclude, by inference, that Rekers is bisexual. If "Geo" forced Rekers to have sexual intercourse, or had sexual intercourse with Rekers without Rekers' consent then we can not infer that Rekers is bisexual.

I'm still holding out hope that Rekers has some attraction to his wife. It would be even worse to think that he was still with her if he wasn't and just using her as a front.

Are you reading the same thing I am reading? There has to be an "enduring pattern", which cannot be determined by what was reported. There is no inferring going on here, only speculation.

 

[catocom]

just like with the RINOs...(and the liars in the dem party...)
time to separate the wheat from the chaff

Having a disagreeable position is one thing, but NoBody likes a liar.
Especially a hypocrite in the extreme.

 

[valkyrie]

just like with the RINOs...(and the liars in the dem party...)
time to separate the wheat from the chaff

Having a disagreeable position is one thing, but NoBody likes a liar.
Especially a hypocrite in the extreme.

I am completely lost by your statement, Cat. I don't know what you're talking about at all.

 

[valkyrie]

Are you reading the same thing I am reading? There has to be an "enduring pattern", which cannot be determined by what was reported. There is no inference going on here, only speculation.

An enduring pattern isn't necessary. It's what he desires and only he would know that for sure. I don't see the harm in feeling sorry for someone that lives a lie.