Extra small condoms for 12 year-old boys go on sale in Switzerland

Winky

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valkyrie

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Gun safety is as important as sex ed in a free society. Target practice could be an elective and Hogan's Alley should be an inter-district sport in high school.
Everyone has a body. Not everyone is going to own a gun. Health ed, therefore, should be taught to all. Whereas gun safety should be an elective.

Not sure what "Hogan's Alley" is... sorry. But if this is kind of like the rifle competitions in the Olympics then I would agree with you.
 

ResearchMonkey

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Everyone has a body and the right to protect their body, like with condoms. You have the right to protect your body from rape and assault or worse.

Maybe if people were taught how to properly operate a fire arm, like condoms, they might better safely utilize this tool to protect their body.

Yeah, Hogan's is like target practice or qualifying your skills with particular weapon.
 

valkyrie

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Everyone has a body and the right to protect their body, like with condoms. You have the right to protect your body from rape and assault or worse.

Maybe if people were taught how to properly operate a fire arm, like condoms, they might better safely utilize this tool to protect their body.

Yeah, Hogan's is like target practice or qualifying your skills with particular weapon.
Ah... then I agree that it would be a nice competition between schools that choose to have a team. You never know. The high school in your neighborhood could produce the next gold medalist at the next Olympics. :)

I found this an interesting read.
 

Gotholic

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What you attempted to do is discount the proper use of condoms and education in the reduction of HIV/AIDS in Africa and the world and replace it by quoting someone who thinks that circumcision and reducing sex-partners alone saved all those people...when nothing could be further from the truth. The truth is that 800,000 people died because of a lack of education about HIV/AIDS, what causes it, how to avoid it and how to treat it ... and most of those got HIV/AIDS because they refused to use condoms because one pissant line in the Bible says that 'spilling one's seed' is EVIL.

Better to die than spill one's seed, eh.

I showed you evidence that abstinence had a greater effect than condoms, which you dismissed.

The primary reason why people do get STD's is not because they do not use condoms. That is akin to saying people get headaches because they have an aspirin deficiency. When you give someone a condom or an aspirin you are only treating the symptoms of a problem, not the underlying cause of said problem. The problem, of course, is promiscuity.

There is only an 85 percent risk reduction for the transmission of HIV for condoms when consistently and correctly used versus 100 percent through abstinence. All other STD's studied show the condom effective rate around 50 percent in prevention. Also, it is interesting to point out that a condom has a failure rate of 15 percent in preventing pregnancy during the first year of use. This should be alarming considering a woman can only get pregnant a few days of the month and the fact that a sperm is larger than a virus. Also, it seems the 15 percent failure rate does not take into account that the sperm which makes it through the condom does not always get the woman pregnant. Thus, the failure rate is probably much higher. Not to mention that you can get an STD any day of the month.

Ending AIDS by handing out condoms is like ending murder by handing out bullet-proof vests.
 

MrBishop

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Condom failure rate is less than 1.2% - and it involved breakage..mostly because people don't use'em properly. Either reusing them, putting them on too late, ripping the things when cutting through the package or with nails while rolling them on etc etc... mostly it's when people don't bother to stop once they realize that something's wrong with the condom. Mechanically, they're 100% effective.... it takes human nature to fuck up.

Kinka like abstinence being 100% effective...until it isn't when it become 0% effective vs. AIDS, STDs and unwanted pregnancy.
 

Gotholic

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Condom failure rate is less than 1.2% - and it involved breakage..mostly because people don't use'em properly. Either reusing them, putting them on too late, ripping the things when cutting through the package or with nails while rolling them on etc etc... mostly it's when people don't bother to stop once they realize that something's wrong with the condom. Mechanically, they're 100% effective.... it takes human nature to fuck up.

Kinka like abstinence being 100% effective...until it isn't when it become 0% effective vs. AIDS, STDs and unwanted pregnancy.

Failure rate to what? An STD (which one too because it does matter) or pregnancy? If you are referring to HIV, then condoms provide an 85% in reduction rate when consistently and correctly used. Which leaves 15% remaining.
 
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