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so says the California teachers union membership

A California high school student who penned an article for his school paper calling for a crackdown on illegal immigration says he has constantly been harassed ever since and the faculty there ignore his pleas, reports the Washington Times.

Tim Bueler, founder of the Rancho Cotate High School’s new Conservative Club, says he has been called a racist and a Nazi for his views. Some teachers have started a public campaign to have his club disbanded and stood by while Hispanic students threatened and harassed him.

"The teacher told him, 'When you say things like that, you've got to expect that things like this are going to happen,’" said Tim’s father, Dennis Bueler.

One teacher called his group "a bunch of bigots" and another called on students to "take a stand against the neoconservative wing-nuts who call themselves Americans."
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His project reflects the freedom of speech...their reaction (hispanic students) represent freedom of speech...

here's the thing though... who the hell leaked a private document *the essay given in for marking to the teacher* to the public *the student body at large* ?

I think that the person who released this private document should have their post withdrawn. Point finale.
 
Squiggy said:
If you're so proud of acting like a nazi, don't cry when you're called one...:shrug:
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So being against illegal immigration makes one a Nazi? Not to make light of the entire issue, but isn't that a little harsh, Squiggy?
 
Not really...Just a statement of my impression of the available info. I've not read the aticle, but sans the link, I assume there were reasons given for the reaction he has recieved. I'm not judging what he said because I don't know what he said. I'm simply stating that to assume a position is to assume a position. Live with it if you believe in yourself. :shrug:
 
Squiggy said:
Not really...Just a statement of my impression of the available info. I've not read the aticle, but sans the link, I assume there were reasons given for the reaction he has recieved. I'm not judging what he said because I don't know what he said. I'm simply stating that to assume a position is to assume a position. Live with it if you believe in yourself. :shrug:
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Perhaps if Gonz would post the link we could be better informed...
 
MrBishop said:
here's the thing though... who the hell leaked a private document *the essay given in for marking to the teacher* to the public *the student body at large* ?
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"an article for his school paper"
 
Sounds like his mouth wrote a check that his ass can't cash...Somewhat understandable in youth.
 
Squiggy said:
Sounds like his mouth wrote a check that his ass can't cash...Somewhat understandable in youth.
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True...but shouldn't the "adults" who witness the alleged threats actually do something? Outside of school grounds, he's on his own, but, on school property, he's supposed to be treated like all other students, no matter how much his viewpoint is disliked by the faculty.

If it was one-on-one, that's one thing, but when you are threatened by a group, that's another.
 
Still lacking the actual content of his statements so its a hard call...If he attacked a 'group', hes gonna be counter attacked by a 'group'. I have to believe his statements went beyond the defendable for the teachers to offer opposition. Sounds like an ugly situation, though.....
 
Squiggy said:
Still lacking the actual content of his statements so its a hard call...If he attacked a 'group', hes gonna be counter attacked by a 'group'. I have to believe his statements went beyond the defendable for the teachers to offer opposition. Sounds like an ugly situation, though.....
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I think he pissed the teachers off is what he did. It's bad enough when you make yourself the target of bullies, but to get on the bad side of your only defense as well leads exactly to this type of situation.
 
Gato_Solo said:
I think he pissed the teachers off is what he did. It's bad enough when you make yourself the target of bullies, but to get on the bad side of your only defense as well leads exactly to this type of situation.
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Speaking from experience, you only have to piss off one. :shrug:
 
This kid didn't realize what kind of crap he stepped into. It wasn't very smart to say anything about illegal immigration in a state of which has a very large illegal immigrant base and support. No offence to anybody from california but it's not fair for the people who go through the legal and proper channels to come over here legally and have someone who comes over here intending to break the laws (and yes they do because working and living here is illegal unless your a citizen or a visa holder). Then to add insult to injury they in alot of cases give illegals the same rights as someone who has come here legally so what is anyones motivation to come legally! Sorry about the rant but as we of the US all know we have one f*cked up immigration system!

This kid should get protection in the school also because if something happens to him in school expect to hear about a nice multi million dollar lawsuit against the school!
 
It probably wasn't the first time he made such statements ,but since we are only getting limited info its impossible to chose sides.
 
"They've made all these sweeping statements about liberal teachers warping the curriculum, but as a science teacher, I'd like to see some evidence," said Mr. Alton, who co-authored the letter.
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Eariler in the story:
In a parody of the newsletter, biology teacher Mark Alton called on students to "take a stand against the neoconservative wing-nuts who call themselves Americans."
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Am I the only one who sees the evidence in what I quoted?

I'd personally like to read the article the kid wrote to see what's the matter.
 
Found this interesting


Clearly enjoying the spotlight, Bueler, a wiry junior of medium height with close-cropped brown hair, waved a copy of talk-radio host Michael Savage's latest book, The Enemy Within. Savage, aware of the national controversy the club has generated, donated 50 copies of his tome lambasting public education in America to the club, said Bueler, who one day hopes to be a talk-radio host himself.
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"You cannot put things in black and white like that," insisted Richard Neffson, a history teacher standing in the back of the room who supports the club's right to exist but whose patience appeared to be wearing thin. "That's why I'm concerned about the tone of this club's rhetoric."
An incredulous look crossed Bueler's face, as if he couldn't believe he'd been punked on his own turf.

"He's getting pissed off because he's getting called out," whispered Danika O'Leary, one of about 20 students sitting on the left side of the room in silent protest.
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he said things that naturally would spark a reaction but that is no reason for teachers to look the other way. he is still a student at that school
 
scary thing is my HS had a guidance counselor named Mr.Alton as well but he was cool and he cared about the kids
 
freako104 said:
he said things that naturally would spark a reaction but that is no reason for teachers to look the other way. he is still a student at that school
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Seems more like a Jerry Springer/Howard Stern/Rush Limbaugh all rolled into one, that is craving attention and would stir something up even if the teachers were helping him.This isn't the first instance of showboating and won't be the last ,after all he wants his own radioshow and we know there is no such thing as bad publicity.
 
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