Howard Dean
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HeXp£Øi±
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Squiggy said:
Is it possible that you just don't understand or agree with our current strategy? I didn't agree with going into Iraq under the circumstances we did but i understand the stratagy and i don't believe it was to put on a show. I think these conservatives simply believe in a domino theory of sorts and with good reason. Many say that you can't have a democracy in this part of the world but Turkey and Pakistan are two examples of a good start. Iran has the ability to fold and if we can turn Iraq into a free nation the balance will have changed drastically in the region imo.
HeXp£Øi±
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Squiggy said:I never thought of you as that far right...
I consider myself right but mostly because i agree with the conservative christians on some of the heaviest issues. On the test we took awhile back though which was a four point grid i actually scored just two points left of Ghandi.
ris
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HeXp£Øi± said:
pakistan is currently a military dictatorship, but in this case the us/uk deem it ok to be a military dictatorship, have and pursue nucleur arms and be a threat to the stability of the region.
i don't disagree that the ideology of creating a democratic iraq is a fine cause, i am not sure that the domino effect is a reality however. my concern comes in the execution of the action and support given to a country that through the actions of conflict we share responsibility for in the short term. i look at the situation in afghanistan, something that seems to have been largely ignored since the moves into iraq and am disappointed.
i think the evidence that the action taken against iraq was part of the war on terrorism is slim at best, information being revealed here during the hutton enquiry seems to indicate that the threat posed by iraq in terms of terror or to the region was quite low.
Since we seem to have a penchant for beating a dead horse, let's consider where we are in Iraq.
The vast majority of it's former leaders are dead or in jail. The Ba'ath party members is trying to destabilize it as quickly as we fix it. (sounds like the remaining Nazi party)
The infrastructure, while in need of serious re-tooling, is getting back up. Their power grid makes ours look outstanding. The other utilities are almost as bad. In spite of this, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. It just so happens that between us & that light is my next point.
We no longer need to go looking for terrorists. They're streaming across the border, coming to us. While, initially, that's scary, they are dealing with the mightiest military in the history of mankind. Should a few dozen countries send troops to Iraq to assist with policing, our guys can get on with their job, killing & breaking stuff. Part of this will, eventually, include Hamas & friends. "Bring it on" is working.
The vast majority of it's former leaders are dead or in jail. The Ba'ath party members is trying to destabilize it as quickly as we fix it. (sounds like the remaining Nazi party)
The infrastructure, while in need of serious re-tooling, is getting back up. Their power grid makes ours look outstanding. The other utilities are almost as bad. In spite of this, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. It just so happens that between us & that light is my next point.
We no longer need to go looking for terrorists. They're streaming across the border, coming to us. While, initially, that's scary, they are dealing with the mightiest military in the history of mankind. Should a few dozen countries send troops to Iraq to assist with policing, our guys can get on with their job, killing & breaking stuff. Part of this will, eventually, include Hamas & friends. "Bring it on" is working.