I like pornography

[unclehobart]

Think along the lines of how supermodels caused armies of teen girls to live to be thin. It spawned a wide range of eating disorders from women trying to become the mold that they felt society was impressing upon them. If they didn't follow 'the look', they would never be popular or land a trophy stud. Its a matter of poor self imagery.

I guess porn would lead a generation of young men to believe that they would not settle for any woman who wasn't a big breasted tight body regardless of what is in the content of their character or heart.

 

[madrin]

I feel fine about myself, Renegade...thus the content of my post....

...I could have just made something up like that science proves that as a species we men need to spread our love around to many different women so that we can assure....blah blah blah.......

...but instead I took issue with a bunch of proselytizing nonsense, and frame it in a way that it warranted....

You know, I have no problem with you or your faith really, or that which it leads you to....

...right up until you try to impress it on me or anyone else. At that point I take out the trash...

I'll grant you, though, that you're 100% entitled to say what you say. Freedom of speech reigns here, it seems...it's just that if you intend to preach I'd say it'd be far more profitable to find a willing flock to fleece....

I'd suggest going back to actually read what you posted in the first place and perhaps you might see the source of the vitriol....but that'd require actually thinking for yourself....

Pleased to meet you....hope you guessed my name....

MADrin

 

[madrin]

Pornography, Hex...is, in and of itself, healthy....

..the display of the naked human body, the act of sexual congress, the overt expression of sexuality not only sells...

...it's 100% Grade A healthy....

......what is UNhealthy is when an influential group of Bible thumping half wits makes sex and sexuality a "taboo" subject, one which has to be hidden on hard drives, in strip clubs, and in seedy storefronts.....

THATS what's wrong with porn....

...so many people minding OTHER people's business.....

It's much like the fact that the only countries that have a "drug problem" are the ones where drugs are illegal....

MADrin

 

[Professur]

It contributes to serial killers(Ted Bundy).
It contributes to sex addiction.
Strippers find enjoyment in unhealty behavior.
let's 14 year old girls & boys in the cities find jobs that pay well enough to support them and utterly destroys their lives.
(just the tip of the iceberg)
Do you have any idea how women are treated in the porn industry?

Am i making all this shit up? I don't need to pretend everything is ok in the world of porn in order to justify the fact that this shit gives me a hard on.

Serial killers are looking for an outlet. Porn doesn't create them. It just gives them a target.

Porn doesn't contribute to sex addiction. Nymphos and perverts have been recorded throughout history. Nothing new there.

Strippers find enjoyment in what?

14 year old boys and girls would be at home in bed if their families weren't totally fucked up. Porn didn't do that. Society did.

Yes, I do know how they're treated. Just like every other woman in every other business. Some are forceful and drive their way to the top. Some are trod under foot. And most earn a paycheck and go home at the end of the day.
And for what it's worth, the separatist movement in Quebec got started the same way. The french couldn't move up in companies. Then all of a sudden, bamn, the entire infrastructure takes a hit and the english are outta jobs. Several of the top porn companies are run by women. And they've got a worse rep for mistreating everyone than any of the men do.

 

[HeXp£Øi±]

Serial killers are looking for an outlet

Serial killers are created just like the rest of us. Their not born serial killers. Ted bundy stated before he was put to death that he thought that pornography contributed heavily to his molding as a person. Should we not believe him because he was a serial killer? On the contrary. I think we should take him at face value on that.

Porn doesn't contribute to sex addiction. Nymphos and perverts have been recorded throughout history. Nothing new there.

Sorry prof but thats ridiculous. It's like sying that alcohol doesn't contibute to alcoholism, drunks have been around since the beginning of time. Porn absolutely contibutes to sex addiction there is no question about this whatsoever in the professional community.

Strippers find enjoyment in what?

Controlling men. When you are hypnotized in front of a stripper she, not you is in control. If you don't belive that they love this try asking some local trippers.

14 year old boys and girls would be at home in bed if their families weren't totally fucked up. Porn didn't do that. Society did.

Please don't do the guns don't kill people people kill people bit on me, i'm not saying it should be outlawed only that it causes problems. When daddy left the gun out and little jonny began playing with it and shot his little sister in the face yes, it was dads fault for not putting the gun away but it was the bullet that splattered little lisa's brains all over the wall. Likewise if daddy had been locking up the computer little jonny might not have been jerking off to porn all these years and yes it was daddies fault but if the porn didn't exist then jonny might have been forced to visit nickjr instead. No i don't think it should be outlawed i just don't see any reason i should blind myself to the realities of the situation in this respect.

As for how women are treated in porn, i think i'll retract that question and reserve the discussion for another day as it has other implications that i don't wish to get into at this point.

 

[Professur]

Hex, you haven't answered my question. At what point does a nudist's summer vacation photos become porn? At what point does a naked body become a problem?

 

[HeXp£Øi±]

Prof i don't claim to be the all knowing judge of what is or isn't porn. However, somewhere beyond the blurred lines of what is and isn't porn i can at some point begin to see aspects of pornography that affect society in a negative manner.

Translated -I don't know.

 

[Professur]

Porn doesn't contribute to sex addiction. Nymphos and perverts have been recorded throughout history. Nothing new there.

Sorry prof but thats ridiculous. It's like sying that alcohol doesn't contibute to alcoholism, drunks have been around since the beginning of time. Porn absolutely contibutes to sex addiction there is no question about this whatsoever in the professional community.

Fraid you lost me here. How does today's porn industry compare to alcohol? Sex addicts existed long before photography. Alcoholics didn't exist before alcohol. Every nation throughout history had it's sex addicts. Hell, there's a huge temple in the Indian area with sexual positions carved on every wall, inside and out. And it wasn't alone. The only reason it exists today is because the English didn't find it when they destroyed all the others. Greece, Rome, Egypt, all had sex cults.

But there aren't any cultures where they had alcoholics before they had liquor.

 

[Professur]

Prof i don't claim to be the all knowing judge of what is or isn't porn. However, somewhere beyond the blurred lines of what is and isn't porn i can at some point begin to see aspects of pornography that affect society in a negative manner.

Translated -I don't know.

That's an honest answer. Thanks. I've been trying to make that point for years. The line is wherever people put it. And no two people put it in the same place.

My daughter started ballet classes this winter. If she does her poses in her leotard, no problem, right? But if she makes the same poses in her skin, it's porn? Not.

Perversion is in the mind of the pervert. Remember the phrase "Me thinks he doth protest too much". The guy pointing the finger is usually the best guy to search.

 

[HeXp£Øi±]

excess repetative alcohol can make an alcoholic.
excess and repetative porn can make a sex addict.
Although that is not to say that it always does just as not all drinkers become alcoholics.
But if you're going to tell me that porn doesn't involve sex(in one form or another) i would be hard pressed to believe it in most circumstances. What am i going to do with those porn flicks if i'm not going to at least jackoff or have sex while watching them? I hope you're not about to tell me that most people don't use porn to get turned on.
Oh and sorry...hieroglyphs don't quite do the trick for me and i doubt that the egyptians jerked off to them either.

 

[freako104]

Serial killers are created just like the rest of us. Their not born serial killers. Ted bundy stated before he was put to death that he thought that pornography contributed heavily to his molding as a person. Should we not believe him because he was a serial killer? On the contrary. I think we should take him at face value on that.

ummmmmmmm someone forgot the biologgical threory?? dont forget that some people are born with genes missing or an extra gene that can cause abnormalities in their psychology.

Controlling men. When you are hypnotized in front of a stripper she, not you is in control. If you don't belive that they love this try asking some local trippers.

so are the s/m clubs i love. they control men there too. is that a problem??

but thats ridiculous. It's like sying that alcohol doesn't contibute to alcoholism, drunks have been around since the beginning of time. Porn absolutely contibutes to sex addiction there is no question about this whatsoever in the professional community.

i dont see how porn contributes to sex addicts. i really dont. a sex addict to me would do anything to get it. a healthy person doesnt need it all the time and masturbation is natrual. it helps get rid of pent up frustration due to lack of sex. this is a common fact.

Prof i don't claim to be the all knowing judge of what is or isn't porn. However, somewhere beyond the blurred lines of what is and isn't porn i can at some point begin to see aspects of pornography that affect society in a negative manner.

theres too much not to know hex. hell i dont know myself and some porn ill admit i find gross(namely beastality and also any kind of stimulated rape are both gross to me.) but some people may not call that porn. its good to admit you dont know everything hex. im not insulting you. im saying admit just like me and prof and everyone else you dont have all the facts.

renegade, i dont see it as exploiting women unless they dont want to do it.

 

[HeXp£Øi±]

Trying to find the fine line under any circumstances be it what is porn. what is racism or a billion other things is not helpful imo because none of us judge anything with the same understanding and experience. Infact many times it's used as a diversionary tactic for debate. After all if someone can't tell you exactly what is or isn't(insert subject here) then they should have no right to guide anyone on the subject. An arguement that misses the point imo.

 

[Professur]

Hmmm. What to do with porn if not to jackoff? Damned if I can think of anything. Line your locker at school? Sex Ed for the kids?

But the question is do perverts make porn, or does porn make perverts? Or is it just an endless cycle of self perpetuation? And is nudity porn? I gotta tell you, Penthouse and Playboy haven't qualified as porn for decades.

I guess you have to address the question of where does art leave off and filth begin. Personally, I find some a-hole stretching whale intestine over a beach as an art form a much higher level of perversion than any nude photos.

 

[HeXp£Øi±]

so are the s/m clubs i love. they control men there too. is that a problem??

well...not if that's what you want.

 

[HeXp£Øi±]

But the question is do perverts make porn, or does porn make perverts?

From my experience it can be both.

 

[Professur]

Freak, I got emailed this vid of a chick blowing a horse. Cum shooting out of her nose, the whole nine yards. Someone out there likes it.

 

[HeXp£Øi±]

It takes all kinds. Shit eaters...a group in Britain want's to legailize necropheplia.

 

[Professur]

Well, if you leave your body for it, why not?

 

[freako104]

well...not if that's what you want.

thats the point i was making. we choose to go there as well as the women choose(in most cases) to be strippers.

What to do with porn if not to jackoff? Damned if I can think of anything. Line your locker at school? Sex Ed for the kids?

i know thisll sound weird prof but it can be good in a relationship sexually speaking. if your both turned on by it, you can enjoy it toghter.

Freak, I got emailed this vid of a chick blowing a horse. Cum shooting out of her nose, the whole nine yards. Someone out there likes it.
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i didnt say noone likes it but its not my thing. i got those emails too i just delete them. i cant block them for some reason.

It takes all kinds. Shit eaters...a group in Britain want's to legailize necropheplia.
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adn thats just brimming the surface. golden showers, torture, s/m, necrophelia, beastality, feces in general is sometimes in it. ill stick to lesbians in my porn and s/m thank you.

 

[BlurOfSerenity]

mmmm..... s/m ^_^