ObamaCare revisited

[spike]

You'll probably hate it. All the fascists and trolls do.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

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[spike]

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Having a public option for health insurance doesn't make for communism. Neither does medicare, the post office, public highways, public universities, or fire and police departments.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

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Having a public option for health insurance doesn't make for communism. Neither does medicare, the post office, public highways, public universities, or fire and police departments.

Larger government with increasing controls, each according to his ability, to each according to his need. A decline in every freedom. That pretty well describe what you believe.

 

[spike]

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[Cerise]

Support for the public option is high.

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[ResearchMonkey]

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[spike]

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Nope in poll after poll the people want the public option.

 

[spike]

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[Cerise]

Nope in poll after poll the people want the public option.

We're talking about current polls.

 

[spike]

Yeah, the ones where most Americans support a public option.

 

[Cerise]

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[spike]

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[Cerise]

Dead? How dare you!

 

[catocom]

people will reap what they sow

Be careful exclaiming those things that are not as though they were.

 

[MrBishop]

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This post contained the same I've edited the rest for. Not helping the situation. - Leslie

 

[ResearchMonkey]

Oh shut up you, you...... you Canadian.

 

[jimpeel]

Here is your future under Obamacare

Once universal health care is implemented, every aspect of your lives will be tied to health care expenses; and more and more of what you do every day will be regulated.

Oh ... wait ... it can't happen here. Right?

SOURCE

November 15, 2009
Health and safety snoops to enter family homes
Robert Watts

Health and safety inspectors are to be given unprecedented access to family homes to ensure that parents are protecting their children from household accidents.

New guidance drawn up at the request of the Department of Health urges councils and other public sector bodies to “collect data” on properties where children are thought to be at “greatest risk of unintentional injury”.

Council staff will then be tasked with overseeing the installation of safety devices in homes, including smoke alarms, stair gates, hot water temperature restrictors, oven guards and window and door locks.

The draft guidance by a committee at the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (Nice) has been criticised as intrusive and further evidence of the “creeping nanny state”.

Until now, councils have made only a limited number of home inspections to check on building work and in extreme cases where the state of a house is thought to pose a serious risk to public health.

Nice also recommends the creation of a new government database to allow GPs, midwives and other officials who visit homes to log health and safety concerns they spot.

The guidance aims to “encourage all practitioners who visit families and carers with children and young people aged under 15 to provide home safety advice and, where necessary, conduct a home risk assessment”. It continues: “If possible, they should supply and install home safety equipment.”

The proposals have been put out to consultation and, if approved, will be implemented next year.

Matthew Elliott, of the TaxPayers’ Alliance, said: “It is a huge intervention into family life which will be counter-productive.

“Good parents will feel the intrusion of the state in their homes and bad parents will now have someone else to blame if they don’t bring up their children in a sensible, safe environment.”

About 100,000 children are admitted to hospital each year for home injuries at a cost of £146m.

 

[spike]

Here is your future under Obamacare

Once universal health care is implemented, every aspect of your lives will be tied to health care expenses; and more and more of what you do every day will be regulated.

Oh ... wait ... it can't happen here. Right?

SOURCE

Jim this is a gigantic illogical stretch even for you. First of all this has absolutely nothing to do with healthcare. Second we aren't implementing universal healthcare (although that might be nice), and third in countries with universal healthcare every aspect of your lives is not tied to healthcare expenses, and fourth this is a proposal that may not even be implemented in another country.

This is a complete failure at scaremongering. I don't know why almost every argument from the right lately is doom and gloom bed wetting fear crystal ball fiction.

 

[catocom]

Nope in poll after poll the people want the public option.

I guess pelosi must be polling the same people for this....

Nancy Pelosi says most Americans would not mind inflating the already-gaping deficit in exchange for more jobs.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/25/pelosi-americans-accept-red-ink-exchange-jobs/