Socialized healthcare care in action.

jimpeel

jimpeel

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Have you got any great stories on the abject failure of European / Canadian healthcare?

Post them here so we can all have a good laugh.
 
jimpeel

jimpeel

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http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1288338,00.html

Dental Patients Pull Out Own Teeth
Updated: 15:04, Monday October 15, 2007

Falling numbers of NHS dentists are forcing many patients to go without treatment or even try pulling out their own teeth, a study has revealed.

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Cost is a major factor

Almost a fifth (19%) of those questioned said they had missed out on dental work because of the cost.

The research found 6% had even resorted to treating themselves because they could not find a dentist.

The 5,000-plus patients who were interviewed also spoke of taking out their own teeth or fixing broken crowns with glue.

One person in Lancashire said he had carried out 14 separate extractions with a pair of pliers.

Roger from London told the Your Stories section of the Sky News website that he combines visits to the dentist with holidays in Egypt.

"I was quoted over £2,000 for a bridge by a dentist in the UK. I had two weeks in a five-star hotel all inclusive.

"Two visits to the dentist my bridge fixed in. Went diving and came home with change from £1,300."

Health Minister Ben Bradshaw told Sky News it was a myth that everyone used to be able to get free dental treatment on the NHS.

"At its very highest it was 60% in this country, now it's 56%. We have always paid for dental care, even on the NHS," he said.

He said people in urgent need should always be able to get NHS treatment but it would only be free for some people, like children, those on benefits and pregnant women.

Dentists blame Government

Mr Bradshaw said the Labour Government had increased the number of NHS dentists and brought down the maximum cost of complex treatment.

"There are now 4,000 more than there were in 1997, we are moving in the right direction, but there are still problems and I am very sorry about that."

Almost three fifths (58%) of dentists blamed new contracts brought in by the Government last year.

Four out of 10 (41%) felt they had an "excessive" workload with 29% saying they had problems recruiting or retaining dentists.

More than 5,200 patients and 750 dentitsts were interviewed as part of the Dentistry Watch survey carried out by the PPI Forums.
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spike

spike

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A recent Commonwealth Fund study shows that the U.S. health care system compares unfavorably to that of other industrialized countries. According to the Hattiesburg American, the U.S. has an alarmingly high infant mortality rate when compared to that of other countries. Also, people who have reached the age of 60 are more likely to die sooner in the U.S. than they would in other industrialized nations.

The study rates countries according to health outcomes, quality, access, equity, and efficiency. The U.S. received a failing score of 66 out of 100.
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http://healthinsurance.about.com/b/a/256871.htm
 
Leslie

Leslie

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Wow. Incite-ful thread. :rolleyes:

Anyway, nope, can't say that I have. I don't know anyone who's had any problems.
 
unclehobart

unclehobart

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I had problems in Canada. I was sick as a dog during my last visit and my lymphatic system swelled up my neck so bad I looked like a frog. I went to a pharmacie de Quebec to get a diuretic because I wanted to try and forcibly drain it... only to be told no. Diurectics are illegal in Canada. I could have codeine and god knows what else... but not a simple diuretic. I was given cherry stems... homeopathic stuff.

bah! druid remedies!
 
Leslie

Leslie

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Not illegal, just not OTC. I can buy whatever cold medicine I want without taking out an application first on the other hand.

Shoulda had more coffee :lloyd:
 
unclehobart

unclehobart

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You must teach me this Canadian under the counter system for purchasing needed products.


Here starteth the lesson...


*meditative mumbling*


More Coffee?! Are ye daft, lass? Donthca remember the size of that thing I drank? It was like 10 larges at once. I'm shocked I didn't go into cardiac arrest. I think were using as a planter now.

holy hell.
 
Gonz

Gonz

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being forcibly moved to a position that will weaken our medical system & create government oversight into our very lives is a justifiable reason to be unhappy about socialist medicine.
 
jimpeel

jimpeel

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spike said:
Statistics seem show that it works better than our system. Funny isn't it? :laugh:
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Ask Karen Jepp and her husband. She is the Canadian woman who was recently flown to Montana to give birth because there were no facilities in Canada that could service her birth of quadrupletts.

There are more MRI and CAT Scan machines in Minnesota than there are in the entire country of Canada.
 
jimpeel

jimpeel

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2minkey said:
not exactly hostility, just ideological fodder. fightin' thems imaginary socialists is still big business among some americans.

check out these assholes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society
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You mean like those imaginary socialists in France, Britain, Denmark, Canada, et al?

Socialism has failed every time it has been tried because there are always more takers than providers. It is a self fulfilling failure.

Oh, and the John Birch Society was correct about Communists in the Manhattan project. They were simply thirty years before their time.
 
spike

spike

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jimpeel said:
Ask Karen Jepp and her husband. She is the Canadian woman who was recently flown to Montana to give birth because there were no facilities in Canada that could service her birth of quadrupletts.
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ZOMG! So if I can find an example of someone from the US going to another country for healthcare then you're wrong? That's an easy setup.
 
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