The value of life

Ugh, no, it's the act. The motivations for the act are a side-act.

Ugh no, the motivations are important.

I think what you're trying to say that any act of terrorism that kils a US citizen should be treated the same as a run of the mill Detroit murder.
 
I think what you're trying to say that any act of terrorism that kils a US citizen should be treated the same as a run of the mill Detroit murder.

We did, for over twenty years. Look where it got us.
 
Oh, so you're saying we should handle terrorism differently. Glad you came around.

Don't you know, it's only terrorism if it happens to White Christian Straight guys?

Otherwise it's just justice (or they where asking for it)
 
No, a crime is a crime. Terrorism is an act of war.

No, terrorism is terrorism. It's not necessarily an act of war. I suppose you could consider gay bashing an act of war against gays if you want though.
 
This is why these things end up in stupid name calling insult zones.

Equating a domestic crime with terrorism is useless & stupid. They are not the same. Over 20 years of trying the leftist way has gotten us nothing more than attacked with greater fury. Attacking terrorism at its (general) source, militarily, has left us safer.

However, that is neither here nor there, according to Al Franken, minorities & homosexuals are more important than little girls.
 
This is why these things end up in stupid name calling insult zones.

Equating a domestic crime with terrorism is useless & stupid. They are not the same. Over 20 years of trying the leftist way has gotten us nothing more than attacked with greater fury. Attacking terrorism at its (general) source, militarily, has left us safer.

However, that is neither here nor there, according to Al Franken, minorities & homosexuals are more important than little girls.

so Tim McVay was just a murderer?
 
Equating a domestic crime with terrorism is useless & stupid.

Terrorism is terrorism.


They are not the same.

Right all crime is not terrorism. Just terrorist acts.


Over 20 years of trying the leftist way has gotten us nothing more than attacked with greater fury.

We haven't been living the leftist way for 20 years. Shit, Bush took up 8 of those years and the other Bush wasn't that long ago.

Attacking terrorism at its (general) source, militarily, has left us safer.

We should have done that. Instead we invaded Iraq which left us less safe.

However, that is neither here nor there, according to Al Franken, minorities & homosexuals are more important than little girls.

Nobody said anyone is more important. In this country though we treat terrorist killings different than your run of the mill Detroit murder.
 
Yep. Mass Murderer.

Nope, terrorist.

"McVeigh claimed that the bombing was revenge for "what the U.S. government did at Waco and Ruby Ridge."[83] McVeigh visited Waco during the standoff, where he spoke to a news reporter about his anger over what was happening there.[11]

McVeigh frequently quoted and alluded to the white supremacist novel The Turner Diaries. It described acts of terrorism similar to the one he carried out."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh#Motivations_for_the_bombing
 
Yep. Mass Murderer.

then so where the people who flew the planes into the world trade centre.

so get the troops out of Afghanistan, and let the local gov't arrest and extradite the guilty.

oops under this definition the guilty are all dead.

well that is all over with now, we can forget the "never forget" and get on with our lives.
 
We haven't been living the leftist way for 20 years. Shit, Bush took up 8 of those years and the other Bush wasn't that long ago.


Nobody said anyone is more important. In this country though we treat terrorist killings different than your run of the mill Detroit murder.

Going back to Reagan, we decided to make terrorism a crime. It escalated. We havent' been hit, outside a war zone, sice the military got involved.

Al Franken said homosexuals & minorities are more important. In fact, he slipped a few lines into a bill that was authorizing funding to fight terrorism, that said homosexuals & miniroities are more important than teh average guy (or little girl)
 
McVeigh claimed that the bombing was revenge for "what the U.S. government did at Waco and Ruby Ridge."[

An American, attacking Americans on US soil. Murder.
 
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