Witchcraft
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catocom
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Boring? maybe, maybe not. That depends on the individual.
Sheltered? yep.
What does all that mean?
Trust in faith, and let Jesus lead, according to his Word.
Do the best you can, which will still never be good enough for God.
Then ask Jesus to cover the rest, when you (see, know, and understand)
and confess to him personally and ask forgiveness.
All that is null and void though if you don't Believe in him to start with.
That is the first step.
catocom
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primitive? depends on ones perception.
Science doesn't necessarily contradict Christianity.
Santa Claus doesn't have anything to do with Jesus, other that
Nick was a lovely man, and demonstrated the "do unto others, as you'd have the do unto you"
part of the philosophy, mostly.
The Santa Claus fable started out to serve a good purpose, but like many
other things, has been perverted over the years.
derision and ridicule? yep that most likely will be the case.
Always has been, and is another reason few will choose to follow.
Science doesn't necessarily contradict Christianity.
Santa Claus doesn't have anything to do with Jesus, other that
Nick was a lovely man, and demonstrated the "do unto others, as you'd have the do unto you"
part of the philosophy, mostly.
The Santa Claus fable started out to serve a good purpose, but like many
other things, has been perverted over the years.
derision and ridicule? yep that most likely will be the case.
Always has been, and is another reason few will choose to follow.
Winky
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Witchcraft and Global Warming.
Witchcraft Christianity Paganism Druidism
have nothing to do with reality nor scientific facts.
Primitive principles have no place in the modern world.
If you want to believe in the Easter bunnies Allah Krishna
or any other ghostly deity that’s great but I don’t think
you should be burned at the stake as a witch for it.
They are gonna point and laugh but kill you?
Yeah that might be a bit much.
Witchcraft Christianity Paganism Druidism
have nothing to do with reality nor scientific facts.
Primitive principles have no place in the modern world.
If you want to believe in the Easter bunnies Allah Krishna
or any other ghostly deity that’s great but I don’t think
you should be burned at the stake as a witch for it.
They are gonna point and laugh but kill you?
Yeah that might be a bit much.
catocom
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meh, it's not for me to judge on matters that belong in Jesus' court, of the heart.
All I need to judge is what people say or do that affect me, or others in a
fashion that is negative according to what is good as described by Jesus.
Making the distinction of whose realm the judgment falls can be tough sometimes,
and is why Jesus told his disciples at the time, not to judge at all. He was
in both worlds at the time, so they didn't need to.
Now he's in mans heart, so a believer has to turn inward to him on it,
so what is perceived as a persons judgment maybe not be even what that
person wants.
That's kinda the short of it on judgment, and I don't like typing that much,
but the bible expounds on it quite a bit.
So if a Christian has doubt on a judgment of another, don't judge that situation at all.
If one misjudges, and realizes it later, then it has to be made right, and or asked forgiveness for it.
All I need to judge is what people say or do that affect me, or others in a
fashion that is negative according to what is good as described by Jesus.
Making the distinction of whose realm the judgment falls can be tough sometimes,
and is why Jesus told his disciples at the time, not to judge at all. He was
in both worlds at the time, so they didn't need to.
Now he's in mans heart, so a believer has to turn inward to him on it,
so what is perceived as a persons judgment maybe not be even what that
person wants.
That's kinda the short of it on judgment, and I don't like typing that much,
but the bible expounds on it quite a bit.
So if a Christian has doubt on a judgment of another, don't judge that situation at all.
If one misjudges, and realizes it later, then it has to be made right, and or asked forgiveness for it.
MrBishop
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Which makes the whole thing an exercise in Ego. If you've never even heard of the Judeo-Christian mythos, you're doomed, regardless of how you've acted during your life.
It's all an accident of birth, catocom. If you'd been born in another part of the world, you might be here defending judaism, budhism, sikhism, taoism, janism, or even the muslim faith...and I'd say, with the same exuberance and handy quotes.
Why is your's right and the other wrong? Why are ANY right at all?
catocom
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If I'm wrong, I've lived a good life and die, but if I'm right, I live forever.
No excuses. If you Love Jesus, you will Want to do what he said.
I you don't love him, well then you've not been save yet.
So...I am under certain rule by choice, thus I am free.
See the whole point of the Ten Commandments that Moses gave, was
to Teach men how to live truly free.
Self control.
I can't say on that 'what if' part.
I do feel blessed though.
2minkey
bootlicker
your faith is obviously not perfect if you're in the "just in case all that shit IS true" camp.
ResearchMonkey
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Interesting manifestations in this thread.
catocom
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I just talk that way some times to get on the same plane sometimes
when trying to have report.
MrBishop
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The Ten Commandments were given to the Jews... the ones who don't revere Jesus as son of God. They all going to hell too?
catocom
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going to Hell?
They are where they they decided to be.
There was a division after that.
All? nope
Also Now there are Christian jews.
Anyway, it doesn't change what it was for. To be able to live free...
as I said.
Jesus then said do these things out of love, not because you will die...
for the Whole world.
MrBishop
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Theres the Ego again. Either the Christian way or no way. Either you're 'saved' and you get into Heaven or you automatically don't.
This doesn't strike me as something a loving deity would come up with. It's more something human beings would come up with and put those words into their deity's mouth.
There is no freedom beyond that one 'choice', which is no choice at all. Either you are born into a Christian family (1/3rd of the population) or you are not (2/3rds of the population). Children are brought into their religion from babes in arms onwards. They do not choose their religion based on thought, introspection or study.
All religions are exclusive. All believe that theirs is the correct and all others are wrong.
This doesn't strike me as something a loving deity would come up with. It's more something human beings would come up with and put those words into their deity's mouth.
There is no freedom beyond that one 'choice', which is no choice at all. Either you are born into a Christian family (1/3rd of the population) or you are not (2/3rds of the population). Children are brought into their religion from babes in arms onwards. They do not choose their religion based on thought, introspection or study.
All religions are exclusive. All believe that theirs is the correct and all others are wrong.
catocom
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Well here's the thing....
God is also 'just', so he had to make a way. That's why Jesus had to die.
I heard someone put it this way....
"There was a young lady that got a speeding ticket.
She went to court, and the judge sentenced her to $100 fine, or a day in jail.
The judge then got up took off his robe, went down and paid the fine.
The judge was her father."
What would the people have said if he'd just said I forgive you because I love you.
No justice in that.
So Jesus was the pay not only for man's sin, but for God who loved man, and
had this dilemma.
2minkey
bootlicker
buddhism is not exclusive. (feel free to make the argument that it isn't a religion.)