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Bubba
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Link: http://www.wkmg.com/sh/news/stories/nat-news-180119920021122-081131.html
These people haven't learned anything. Have they?
These people haven't learned anything. Have they?
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Bubba
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Gonz said:
Learned not to put the economy of a whole nation in one building to invite terrorists to think they can make a big score on one hit. That's what.
A more secure building that is easy to evacuate in more preferable. Let's say they build the tallest building and some asshole finds a way to bring it down again. How many thousands of lives lost is it going to take to give up vanity in exchange for practicality? That's a good part of what is wrong with the country. People are into glitz and less into what is really important which is safeguarding the economy and lives of citizens.
Our economy was already dropping, this only expedited matters. With power & wealth comes the need to show a little extravagance.
Are you suggesting we build a whole nation of 4 story buildings because some moronic murderers caused a catastrophe? Given the possibilities (50,000+ in those buildings) & the fact (less than 4,000 dead), the evacuation went exceptionally well. Next time, we just add a Klingon Disruptor to the mess of antennaes on the roof.
Are you suggesting we build a whole nation of 4 story buildings because some moronic murderers caused a catastrophe? Given the possibilities (50,000+ in those buildings) & the fact (less than 4,000 dead), the evacuation went exceptionally well. Next time, we just add a Klingon Disruptor to the mess of antennaes on the roof.
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Bubba
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i don't agree
Altron
Well-Known Member
Call me a crazy bastard, but I don't think we need to take all these extra security measures. Stuff like this is going to happen, and there's not much we can do.I mean, we shouldn't abandon all security, but we shouldn't place it above everything else.
Better to have a short fun life and die than to have a long life of terror.
Better to have a short fun life and die than to have a long life of terror.
ihcra
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Bubba said:
well what you say isnt wholly untrue with regard to ego and marketing behind a true landmark.
on the other hand let us for one moment examine the relationship between a tower building and the nature of the society that fuels it - in this case the USA.
a tower has been said to be many things from penii extension to worse but in truth there is a fundamental truth that a tower is the most tangible evidence and mnifestation of land value we know.
land value is driven by market desire
market desire is driven ostensibly by proximity. proximity leads to density.
maximising landvalue could be argued is the duty of any corporation with shareholders. it is legislated that the corporation should do just this. and so if the land value of a plot is markedly higher than that which surrounds it - it is a fre market duty to maximise this by increasing denisty per that plot. the LEGISLATED duty for the corporation DOES NOT extend to the defence primarily of the occupants. it is the duty of the building fabricators to work withing existing building codes - and said codes are fully enabling of high rise buildings.
so the question should be - if you dont want towers which should you change first?
political independance of the market economy and associated legislature or encroachment of policy further into the freedoms of landowners?
it is futile to complain about this without declaring first a belief that a government is fundamentally a higher moral power than the governed (at odds slightly with the constitution). if this is the case then change will out. if not and you dont believe it to be so then nothing will change.
your call
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Bubba
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i have read your response
Gato_Solo
Out-freaking-standing OTC member
Too bad the Geneva convention doesn't lend itself to revenge. Imagine if you were allowed to retaliate against such an attack by carpet-bombing indiscriminately any civilian target you wished...including schools and religious areas. Would kind of make someone think before they acted...
Gato_Solo
Out-freaking-standing OTC member
Not really. The US has done some pretty rotten things in the past, but this has to do with the US doing a bombing runs over targets with no 'military value', such as churches, schools, hospitals, et al...unless those 'targets' are being used as gun emplacements or troop staging areas. The Geneva convention is pretty clear on that.
