An animals love
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I've seen dogs grieve for weeks...There has to be something there.
unclehobart
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Prof, What was the name of that dog that lived on top of his masters grave forever and a day unto the time of his own death?
Mirlyn
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Mirlyn
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unclehobart
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In 1858, a man named John Gray was buried in old Greyfriars Churchyard. His grave levelled by the hand of time, and unmarked by any stone, became scarcely discernible; but, although no human interest seemed to attach to it.
The sacred spot was not wholly disregarded and forgotten. For fourteen years the dead man's faithful dog kept constant watch and guard over the grave until his own death in 1872. James Brown, the old curator of the burial ground, remembers Gray's funeral, and the dog, a Skye terrier called "Bobby", was, he says, one of the most conspicuous of the mourners. The grave was closed in as usual, and next morning "Bobby", was found, lying on the newly-made mound.
This was an innovation which old James could not permit, for there was an order at the gate stating in the most intelligible characters that dogs were not admitted. "Bobby" was accordingly driven out; but next morning he was there again, and for the second time was discharged. The third morning was cold and wet, and when the old man saw the faithful animal, in spite of all chastisement, still lying shivering on the grave, he took pity on him, and gave him some food. This recognition of his devotion gave "Bobby" the right to make the churchyard his home; and from that time until his own death he never spent a night away from his master's tomb.
Often in bad weather attempts were made to keep him within doors, but by dismal howls he succeeded in making it known that this interference was not agreeable to him, and he was always allowed to have his way. At almost any time during the day he could be seen in or about the churchyard, and no matter how rough the night, nothing could induce him to forsake that hallowed spot, whose identity he so faithfully preserved.
That, however, concludes the story of the life of Greyfriars' Bobby, a life which was later commemorated by the erection of the statue and fountain by Baroness Burdett Coutts. The figure which was unveiled, without any ceremony, on November 15, 1873.
...that sure sounds like the one.
The sacred spot was not wholly disregarded and forgotten. For fourteen years the dead man's faithful dog kept constant watch and guard over the grave until his own death in 1872. James Brown, the old curator of the burial ground, remembers Gray's funeral, and the dog, a Skye terrier called "Bobby", was, he says, one of the most conspicuous of the mourners. The grave was closed in as usual, and next morning "Bobby", was found, lying on the newly-made mound.
This was an innovation which old James could not permit, for there was an order at the gate stating in the most intelligible characters that dogs were not admitted. "Bobby" was accordingly driven out; but next morning he was there again, and for the second time was discharged. The third morning was cold and wet, and when the old man saw the faithful animal, in spite of all chastisement, still lying shivering on the grave, he took pity on him, and gave him some food. This recognition of his devotion gave "Bobby" the right to make the churchyard his home; and from that time until his own death he never spent a night away from his master's tomb.
Often in bad weather attempts were made to keep him within doors, but by dismal howls he succeeded in making it known that this interference was not agreeable to him, and he was always allowed to have his way. At almost any time during the day he could be seen in or about the churchyard, and no matter how rough the night, nothing could induce him to forsake that hallowed spot, whose identity he so faithfully preserved.
That, however, concludes the story of the life of Greyfriars' Bobby, a life which was later commemorated by the erection of the statue and fountain by Baroness Burdett Coutts. The figure which was unveiled, without any ceremony, on November 15, 1873.
...that sure sounds like the one.
Mirlyn
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"One of my favorite things about Edinburgh is the story of Greyfriers Bobby. This loyal pooch, a Skye terrier, sat watch over his master's grave for 16 YEARS after his master's death in 1856. He would leave the cemetery (the one where we went to see the poltergeist) each day to get fed and play with the townspeople, but would return each night, rain, snow, or shine to lay by the grave. Over this time, the townspeople of Edinburgh came to dearly love this animal, so much so that he was buried in the cemetery (absolutely unheard of for a dog when most people could not afford a burial there). His statue graces the entrance of the cemetery and to this day serves as a model for bringing people together."
Account from: http://onesummerineurope.com/9-07-02 Edinburgh.htm
Account from: http://onesummerineurope.com/9-07-02 Edinburgh.htm
HeXp£Øi±
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Oh good i love it when i'm in the minority.
At first thought it may seem as though animals are very similear to humans in the case of love and nurturing but in fact if we think about it i'm sure we can all remember seeing at least one case on film of an animal mother abandoning her young. I can remember seeing one just a few months back. A mother lion was lying under a large tree trunk when a pack of hyeenas approached. The mother lion fought for a moment and when it became clear that the situation was extremely dire she bolted and watched from a distance as the hyeenas proceeded to tear apart her three cubs. This is not a rare occurence. I've seen it again and again. Humans on the other hand will fight to the death for their children even if the situation is clearly hopeless and not just mothers but fathers as well. It doesn't stop there either, people will risk their lives for other people they don't even know and if that wasn't enough they'll do it for people they hate as well. People build up in their minds the love and loyalty of their dog who would probably defend them against many of the ferocious beasts of the earth but i can pretty much guarantee you that one swat from a black bears claws to the shoulder and your dog is gonna be outta there. On the other hand your mother would probably take a few to the face and be killed without even the consideration of running.
Many people might argue that we humans even kill our own children etc but we use drugs and have all these extenuating psychological circumstances. Studies have shown that if you throw drugs alone into the mix animals will choose the drug 100% of the time abandoning not only children to die but they themselves will stop eating to use the drug. Even amongst humans this only happens a small percentage of the time. The fact is that a large portion of the human population will give there lives for others that they don't even know yet animals will almost always preserve themselves before even their children. I personally don't think there is any comparison between the two. Human love is superior to that of an animals.
At first thought it may seem as though animals are very similear to humans in the case of love and nurturing but in fact if we think about it i'm sure we can all remember seeing at least one case on film of an animal mother abandoning her young. I can remember seeing one just a few months back. A mother lion was lying under a large tree trunk when a pack of hyeenas approached. The mother lion fought for a moment and when it became clear that the situation was extremely dire she bolted and watched from a distance as the hyeenas proceeded to tear apart her three cubs. This is not a rare occurence. I've seen it again and again. Humans on the other hand will fight to the death for their children even if the situation is clearly hopeless and not just mothers but fathers as well. It doesn't stop there either, people will risk their lives for other people they don't even know and if that wasn't enough they'll do it for people they hate as well. People build up in their minds the love and loyalty of their dog who would probably defend them against many of the ferocious beasts of the earth but i can pretty much guarantee you that one swat from a black bears claws to the shoulder and your dog is gonna be outta there. On the other hand your mother would probably take a few to the face and be killed without even the consideration of running.
Many people might argue that we humans even kill our own children etc but we use drugs and have all these extenuating psychological circumstances. Studies have shown that if you throw drugs alone into the mix animals will choose the drug 100% of the time abandoning not only children to die but they themselves will stop eating to use the drug. Even amongst humans this only happens a small percentage of the time. The fact is that a large portion of the human population will give there lives for others that they don't even know yet animals will almost always preserve themselves before even their children. I personally don't think there is any comparison between the two. Human love is superior to that of an animals.
madrin
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You know, Hex..I think I misread that as well.
....well, now that I've read your last bit about it I can see where you're coming from.
I could come up with something anecdotal I guess...but it wouldn't approach what you put up there...it'd only be for the sake of argument, and I've kinda blown my gasket on that on that one over the last couple days...
MADrin
....well, now that I've read your last bit about it I can see where you're coming from.
I could come up with something anecdotal I guess...but it wouldn't approach what you put up there...it'd only be for the sake of argument, and I've kinda blown my gasket on that on that one over the last couple days...
MADrin
I know the feeling....
