Babies having Babies.

PrincessLissa

PrincessLissa

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My friend has just informed me that on a talk show she is watching, they are featuring 13 year olds, and a few younger, that are TRYING to get pregnant.

*faints*

They don't even care if they know who the father is or WHO the father is. These girls need a SERIOUS wake up call!
 
I had Alex when I was 18, so I am a baby that had a baby, but at the age of 13, I was too worried about if I had the right shoes and my bangs sprayed to the right side. I was not thinking of having babies. I really hope that I can instill the value of enjoying your childhood in my children. I was 18, but I still feel like I missed out on a lot that I will have to wait until my children are grown to get back.
 
What the hell are they thinkin? Stupid question, they're obviously not thinking at all..

So what's the deal, they want a itty bitty living doll to play with, or what?
 
Well now, not that I agree, but for most of recorded history (and still throughout much of the world) thirteen wass considered a marragiable age. :shrug: In fact, people wondered what was wrong with an eighteen year old girl who wasn't married with a couple of brats.

In other words, several genrations ago such would be completely unremarkable.

I could have that wrong, but don't the mormons still consider thirteen a marragiable age?
 
not thatI know of. My aunt and uncle are Mormons and the ones that I knew from them would have disagreed
 
I know that was how it was back in the old days, but this is now. 13 year olds are encouraged to be preparing for a future, not a family. We live so much longer now than we did way back when and there is no longer a need for 13 year olds to have babies.
 
Starya said:
What the hell are they thinkin? Stupid question, they're obviously not thinking at all..

So what's the deal, they want a itty bitty living doll to play with, or what?
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They want the food stamps and other government handouts. They watched mamma sit on her ass in subsidized housing for years, never work, never contribute to anything productive, never go to school, and still get fed, clothed, housed, and medicined for free. They don't realize that it's the sweat of honest working folk that pay for these things. Now they want to be just like momma. They too want to be on the draw.

And thanks to your friendly neighborhood democrat, they will be.

Meanwhile, our elderly get their hard earned benefits dropped or cut to the bone to pay for this kid's kids. A retired person who worked for fifty plus years has to go without heart medicine so this crap can continue.

I know. My grandparents suffered through it.

So get out and vote, everyone. Keep the free rides coming! All in the name of social consciousness.


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SouthernN'Proud said:
They want the food stamps and other government handouts. They watched mamma sit on her ass in subsidized housing for years, never work, never contribute to anything productive, never go to school, and still get fed, clothed, housed, and medicined for free. They don't realize that it's the sweat of honest working folk that pay for these things. Now they want to be just like momma. They too want to be on the draw.

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Or just maybe, they are searching for someone to love them and someone for them to love? Because they aren't getting it at home.
 
Still not society's place to pick up the slack. For a 13 year old kid to go out and get knocked up because "no one at home loves me" sounds mighty weak. I don't doubt that many of these kids are underloved at home...no question about it. They only signify another dependant to claim at DHS anyway to some of these baby factory "parents". But the kid sure learned from the momma, and is out doing the same things. It's a never ending pattern. I see its effects every day. I feel the effects every payday. I feel them in my ever-increasing insurance premiums to pay for the ones who won't provide for themselves. Ever wonder why the ER fills up after 5PM? Ever notice who's there? Why so many people wait and take their kids to the ER at 8PM for the sniffles? Because it's free (for them).

I submit that the best way to reverse the trend is to quit paying for them to lay back and make babies for a living. Then they'll have initiative to take that low paying job at Pizza Hut...you know, the one I had to pay for a college education. The one I used to better myself. Until then, we as a society can expect nothing more.
 
AllEars' said:
Or just maybe, they are searching for someone to love them and someone for them to love? Because they aren't getting it at home.
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maybe that's why I've been so broody lately. :(

Case in point though, 3 kids later and it still doesn't work the way they think it's gonna work.
 
AllEars' said:
Or just maybe, they are searching for someone to love them and someone for them to love? Because they aren't getting it at home.
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This is the conclusion the talk show came to.

As far as the government programs. Even if the girl has a baby at 13, unless they are leagally emancipated, they cannot get the benefits from these programs unless her parents already have them and then they are under thier parents benefits. I am not saying that it is right, but you almost make it sound as if anyone using these programs is abusing them. I am currently on Medicaid because when I was hit by the car I couldn't work and I lost my benefits. Then Erik lost his job and we found out I was pregnant and I needed to be on Medicaid. I have worked and paid my taxes and I do not plan on being apart of the system forever. As soon as one of these interviews Erik goes on comes through and he gets a job with benefits, we will drop the Medicaid and use his benefits. I understand that there are a LOT of people out there who do abuse the system and those people make me sick to my stomach, but it is not everyone. Some people really need them and use them how they were meant to be used.
 
I never said that it would work, nor do I think it is right. But in their minds, at least someone loves me. I think it only makes matters worse. The parents are to blame. I know at 13 hell even 16 I wouldn't have dreamed about having sex for the fear of getting prego or worse a sexually transmitted disease and having to disappoint my mother that way. I think parents are lax these days in talking to their children about many things. I know we talk to our 11.8 year old constantly about issues that she has to deal with and will face in soon to be days.

I agree not everyone uses the system the way it was designed to be used. I think the system should be alot strictor. I think you should only be given the assistants for a certain amount of time and show proof that you are doing something to better your life. (ie school, job training) and I think that everyone on the system should be required parenting classes of some sort. But that is only my opinion and I am sure not eveyone agrees with it.
 
PrincessLissa said:
I am not saying that it is right, but you almost make it sound as if anyone using these programs is abusing them...I understand that there are a LOT of people out there who do abuse the system and those people make me sick to my stomach, but it is not everyone. Some people really need them and use them how they were meant to be used.
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I also said that the problem is those who need the benefits can't get them because of those who abuse the system.

I have zero problem with helping anyone out for a while. I have a huge problem with being expected to support people who have no intention of doing anything to ever support themselves though fully capable of doing so.

A kid having babies at 13 will be on the take for life. Just as she probebly wants to be. Therefore, in her case, she gets exactly what she wants, and gets it from the sweat of my brow. Tell me that's right.

I do not qualify for any assistance whatsoever, despite the fact that very soon I will be going without pay to recover from necessary surgery. Despite the fact that in the 18 months leading up to this surgery I have pulled myself to work on days that anyone would have justified me staying home. I have gone to work in pain the likes of which most people will never endure. And when I could really use 45 days of benefits, I don't qualify; but these baby factories have places lined up to hand them everything from food stamps to food boxes to soap to diapers to you name it.

The day I walked across a college campus hungry, cold due to inadequate coat, and exhausted from studying, and happened to be behind three divas draped in gold, wearing running suits that each cost more than everything in my closet combined, and listened to them bitch because they HAD to go to college because they got it free because they are black women, while I could not get dime one of financial aid and honestly wanted to be there, my attitudes changed forever. Sue me.

Oh, I'm not worried. This little floozy will be well provided for. Kerry et al will make sure of it. As for the working class fools among us, to Hell with us. We need to pay more taxes so more pieces of filth like this kid can lay on their collective asses and do nothing but make more babies to pay for. It's all in the name of social consciousness doncha know.

Well, my social consciousness tells me that if some of them were forced to get off their hineys and break a legal sweat, they might learn the value of a dollar...or a bottle of cough medicine...or a pound of hamburger. If all these things suddenly weren't provided for them, maybe they'd have no choice but take care of themselves, control their urges once in a while, and do like the rest of us are forced to do...live responsibly within your means. It wouldn't kill them; it might just help them more than another handout will.

[SnP donning body armor in preparation of the onslaught]
 
It is as you say SnP, if you ever want tob collect the freebees, NEVER hold a job. Once you've earned SocSec, you're screwed.

Ppl that have pain into the system get screwed when they need it. Ppl that have never paid in the system get a basket full of goodies ranging from free-housing to full medi-care.
 
Instead of taking care of these obviously abused children, we're puttin' 'em on TV.

God I love this country.
 
Boy is this 1983 all over again? Yes the cause of all the problems in this world are those billions of Cadillac welfare queens who the democrats let do whatever they want on the states dole. Boy, did someone find you guys in a time capsule or something labeled ANGRY BITTER WORKING CLASS CONSERVATIVES OF THE EARLY 80S? Ever heard of the "Gingrich Revolution"? Welfare reform? I think you guys better start reading some current papers or something. They HAVE tightened up the limits on those receiving welfare. Remember that guy Clinton? The Democrat? Even he had a hand in that. So lets not try blaming anyone not 3 miles right of center for our fictitious socialist state thanks. Time to brush up on things that have happened in the past 20 years or so. Oh and did you know we have had a republican held government on ALL levels for half a decade now! Yes its true! Amazing huh? But somehow its the liberals who are the cause all the problems in government. makes sense to me.

Frankly, I think you guys should avoid watching so much day time crap on TV. They love to take an infinitely small pin prick of a population (13 year olds that want to get pregnant??) and make it seem as if you are surrounded by them everywhere. Its a disservice but it gets ratings. People actually sit there and watch this kind of sleaze and think to themselves oh my gosh theres four of them on that panel being paid by Jerry Springer! It must be a pandemic!! Well relax is my advice. Its just TV ratings tactics. Teen pregnancy rates have been going DOWN for the better part of a decade now. More girls then EVER are going to college. It isnt the end of society or the world. Lets find a real issue to worry about shall we.
 
Having taught school in a district that was heavy with food stamp recipients and people getting govt. assistance, I had several 7th grade girls that either already had a baby or were pregnant. However, in 30 years, I doubt there were more than 5 or 6.
 
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