Leslie said:
Neither of those would preclude believers from following the dietary/clothing/gayness/sleeping with other people's wives/daughter/dogs rules set out in Leviticus.
Yes, they would. All except homosexualty and bestiality that you have mentioned.
Leslie said:
In your Mark citation, he's speaking to sinners (Pharisees) and mocking them for following the one rule (washing and cleanliness) and not following the actually important ones. He's saying something along the lines of it's not not washing that makes you dirty, not "you don't have to wash anymore". he's not declaring things unclean. He's only saying that having clean food doesn't make you not a sinner.
You're right, but Jesus goes further with the passage I have given.
Jesus is also referring to food in that passage (which should be quite obvious). Eating foods that were against Jewish dietary laws was thought to defile the person.
Leslie said:
In the Colossians citation - The background there is Christians being berated/penalized/punished/mocked for having traditions and parties and foods on Sabbaths and Holy Holidays. Let no man pass judgement on you for (following your traditions). He's saying don't let them mock you because of your parties.
You skipped the food and drink part, which the Jews had laws to follow on what to eat and drink.
Also, consider the following passages:
Acts 10:9-16
[9] The next day, as they were on their journey and coming near the city, Peter went up on the housetop to pray, about the sixth hour.
[10] And he became hungry and desired something to eat; but while they were preparing it, he fell into a trance
[11] and saw the heaven opened, and something descending, like a great sheet, let down by four corners upon the earth.
[12] In it were all kinds of animals and reptiles and birds of the air.
[13] And there came a voice to him, "Rise, Peter; kill and eat."
[14] But Peter said, "No, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean."
[15] And the voice came to him again a second time, "What God has cleansed, you must not call common."
[16] This happened three times, and the thing was taken up at once to heaven.
Romans 14:1-4
[1] As for the man who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not for disputes over opinions.
[2] One believes he may eat anything, while the weak man eats only vegetables.
[3] Let not him who eats despise him who abstains, and let not him who abstains pass judgment on him who eats; for God has welcomed him.
[4] Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Master is able to make him stand.
1 Timothy 4:1-5
[1] Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by giving heed to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons,
[2] through the pretensions of liars whose consciences are seared,
[3] who forbid marriage and enjoin abstinence from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
[4] For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving;
[5] for then it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.
Leslie said:
Is there a "Disregard everything God told you he wants you to do" statement by Jesus or God in the New Testament somewhere else? Or another "Disregard some of what God told you he wants you to do but don't disregard this one sentence here" statement that actually has merit and says that? Jesus's new law says nothing about teh ghey whatsoever, just blanket statements about immorality, drunkenness, envy, things like that.
You have a misunderstanding here. First off, Jesus is God.
Now...
Matthew 5:17
[17] "Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them.
Circumcision is fulfilled in baptism. The Passover is fulfilled in the Mass. The animal sacrifice for one's sin is no longer needed since Christ is the sacrifical lamb that died for all of our sins.
Also, although Jesus did not mention homosexuality he did not mention incest or beastiality either. But that doesn't mean He condoned it.
Leslie said:
Is there any mention at all besides the positive ones in the New Testament with regards to homosexuality?
There are no positive passages on homosexuality. However, there are negative ones:
Romans 1:26-27
[26] For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural,
[27] and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error.
1 Timothy 1:8-11
[8] Now we know that the law is good, if any one uses it lawfully,
[9] understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
[10] immoral persons, sodomites, kidnapers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,
[11] in accordance with the glorious gospel of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted.
Leslie said:
As far as I can find, homosexuality in itself is mentioned several times in the Old Testament as a positive thing.
There are none!
Leslie said:
It is mentioned in Leviticus and Corinthians (only according to some translations) in speeches directed solely at Israelites, and excluding all other peoples in the world. Even taking that translation though, even though it's loose and unlikely, considering it's wrapped up amongst wearing wool-linen blends and eating pig, and not being able to find any reference whatsoever to entirely disregarding God's rules except for some of them...
Some Bibles are very inaccurate - some purposely done too.
Don't forget the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Leslie said:
It's hypocritical to hold up homosexuality as some evil sin and not follow the other basic rules he set out for the same peoples in the same speeches.
You attack what you do not understand.
The laws were fulfilled through Jesus (read Hebrews for an extensive explanation). Moral laws always remain the same. The Old Covenant is replaced with the New Covenant. So the civil/cermonial laws no longer apply.
Note: Remember (or this just might be a news flash to you) Man was originally a vegetarian. It was later that God allowed man to eat meat then had regulations. These kinds of laws have changed but moral laws never do.