Cell phone etiquette lesson

[Sharky]

The AP usually sends out the whole story, and not just the parts that folks want to hear. If there are other wintesses, that have different stories, then they would be in the article as well. Perhaps if the original poster gave us the link, we could see for ourselves.

Pepper Spray Incident AP News Release

In a perfect world we would hear unbiased reporting at all times.

From this page of Feudalism: alias American Capitalism:

For the most part, reporters are told what stories to cover and usually even how to cover them. The stories are biased before the reporter even leaves his desk. In any event, editors have plenty of opportunities to influence the emphasis or coloration of a news item before it hits the news anchorperson's desk.

Granted, the topic of that particular passage was from a chapter on "Manipulation of the Media" in re: investigative journalism responsibilities (if I understood it correctly), but it still applies as a testament to the commonality of manipulation of news stories by media outlets.

 

[Digital]

Funny how you ignore the fact that they were maced, and the only people who brought up race were you, and ResearchMonkey. Since you brought up the race card, and not me, (I made my comments befre I looked over at 'Smoking Gun'), I now feel safe is asking the following...

Why do you think they were maced? If it's not a race issue, then it's a police brutality issue. From what I read in the article, there was no yelling, screaming, pushing, etc, so why were they maced? I can also say that, if any case justified the race card, this one does. If the race card is not justified, then you'd best show evidence as to why, instead of the bile you spewed above...You, too, RM. Put up, or shut up.

I was only responding to the Race card, actually.

As far as the incident goes...The Pepper Spray was a bit much. Though, I do wish I could Spray/Pummel/Dismember those assholes who feel they have the right to talk *loudly* in theaters on their phones or to the person next to them. (I actually threatened this one ass who did it. Thankfully I'm large and scary looking.)

 

[IDLEchild]

It comes down to the obvious.....they were rude but pepper spray wasn't needed. The cop most likely had some prejudice against black people and was proud of his duties and priviledges given to cops. I mean why was he walking around with a pepper spray on his night off?

He just happens to be a vigilante then? Fuck that if he says it is for protection.....unless he wants to be laughed at by other guys, a cop or any man most likely won't carry a pepper spray around for protection.

They weren't as nice as they claim to be but they weren't as disturbing as the police claims to be. He used excessive force.

 

[Gato_Solo]

It comes down to the obvious.....they were rude but pepper spray wasn't needed. The cop most likely had some prejudice against black people and was proud of his duties and priviledges given to cops. I mean why was he walking around with a pepper spray on his night off?

Where do you draw the conclusion that he didn't like black people? He's just an asshole with a badge, who likes to intimidate people.

He just happens to be a vigilante then? Fuck that if he says it is for protection.....unless he wants to be laughed at by other guys, a cop or any man most likely won't carry a pepper spray around for protection.

Cops carry mace and pepper spray for situations that do not require a gun. Perhaps if he just shot them, you'd feel better? Police need to protect themselves, too, and deadly force isn't always an option. Unfortunately, he didn't need to use the spray in this instance. He lost control of the situation, and then lost control of himself. He's a bad cop...period.

They weren't as nice as they claim to be but they weren't as disturbing as the police claims to be. He used excessive force.

The truth is always somewhere in the middle...unless you have witnesses. In this case, the witnesses seem to agree with the "victim's" statements, so now you have to ask yourself if this cop deserves to wear a badge?

 

[Gonz]

The AP usually sends out the whole story, and not just the parts that folks want to hear. If there are other wintesses, that have different stories, then they would be in the article as well. Perhaps if the original poster gave us the link, we could see for ourselves.

What...you won't say my name because I'm a white guy? Huh?!?! Is that it? C'mon, admit it.

Hell I have no idea where I found it. It's the complete story & can probably be traced using Google.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

The simple fact of the matter is a judgement call.

You don't fire a weapon at someone unless you have good cause and know who is standing behind them. (where the bullet may travel)

You don't use mace in an area where there other people unless you have damn good cause (colateral damage).

 

[Digital]

Agreed, but you can't tell me that you wouldn't want to do the same thing when some inconsiderate ignorant asshole (and I'm talking about the GENERAL populous who does this, not one specific race) starts talking in the middle of the movie.
(Bolded because I don't want someone to mistake it for would.)

 

[ResearchMonkey]

Wanting to stand up and pee on their heads doesn't mean I will.

I have had homoicidal desires, but thats my problem isn't it.

"your honor, you don't understand, they really made me mad"

 

[Digital]

Wanting to stand up and pee on their heads doesn't mean I will.

I know, and I agree. But we seem to be scolding the shit out of this cop for standing up and doing something we only WISH we could have done.

I have had homoicidal desires, but thats my problem isn't it.

Is that a question, or a statment? Either way, I empathize.
Since I cannot KILL these inconsciderate 'tards, I have found a better solution: JtHM

 

[ResearchMonkey]

Excuse me, I forgot your liberal and expect emotion based justice. silly me!

We consevitives tend to hold people accountable for their actions minus the emotion.

I hope that:

A) this fella that had his wish granted gets sued to the tune on $10k.

B) he gets desk job and a serious ding placed in his file.

C) that the DA looks at the incident and considers charges for abuse of authorty.


It doesnt matter how much fun it would be or how much you 'feel' justified. What does matter is did you act appropriatley for the situation.

 

[Digital]

Excuse me, I forgot your liberal and expect emotion based justice. silly me!

We consevitives tend to hold people accountable for their actions minus the emotion.

I hope that:

A) this fella that had his wish granted gets sued to the tune on $10k.

B) he gets desk job and a serious ding placed in his file.

C) that the DA looks at the incident and considers charges for abuse of authorty.


It doesnt matter how much fun it would be or how much you 'feel' justified. What does matter is did you act appropriatley for the situation.

Yeah...Libreals are emotion based. That's why every major pascifist in history has been on the Left side. Do me a favor, and take this test: http://www.politicalcompass.org/
Now, politics aside. This is why I wouldn't do such a thing. As much as I'd WANT to shove that phone up that person's ass, I wouldn't. The lawsuit and jail time just is not worth it, plus it's not worth the energy. Again, as I previously stated, the use of force was a BIT excessive.

 

[Gato_Solo]

Yeah...Libreals are emotion based. That's why every major pascifist in history has been on the Left side. Do me a favor, and take this test: http://www.politicalcompass.org/
Now, politics aside. This is why I wouldn't do such a thing. As much as I'd WANT to shove that phone up that person's ass, I wouldn't. The lawsuit and jail time just is not worth it, plus it's not worth the energy. Again, as I previously stated, the use of force was a BIT excessive.

You do realize that you were the first in this thread to use the race card, don't you? You also realize that your responses have been a bit emotional, rather than logical, don't you? You also realize that there is no such thing as a BIT excessive, right? It's either excessive, or it isn't. Which is it, and don't give any half-"ass" answers. It's either yes, or no. If it's yes, then we agree that the police officer abused his duty as required for the situation. If your answer is 'no', then, and only then, you'll have some explaining to do.

 

[Digital]

It is excessive. Very exessive. Is that a Yes enough answer? A bit, very much...Same diff.
Ok, I have to tell you a little bit about myself. [Enter groans here] I used to work at a movie theater. I had to deal with assholes talking in a theater DAILY. ALSO, 40% of the time when I've been in the theater as a *customer. I've also had to deal with assholes talking in a movie theaters. Shit like this really pisses me off. I've stopped dating women over this same shit. It's annoying, it disrupts others from enjoying the movie. (If it doesn't, then why do I get people screaming at ME when these asshats do this shit?) Yeah, I'm a bit passionate. It's fuckin' bullshit that people are this inconsciderate.

As far as the race card topic. I know I did. You're probably the third or fourth person who said it. Again, that post was ONLY talking about the race part Research spoke of. I was also drunk during the time of posting. Sue me: I went out to have a good time, and came back to fuck with you guys.

*Though I used to see movies for free, I still held no power to kick these bastards out. I had to go to someone who did.

 

[Gonz]

A bit, very much...Same diff.

No. A bit is just barely. Crossing the line by a small margin.

Very much speaks for itself.

Words have meaning. Find the meaning & writing can be your friend.

I was also drunk during the time of posting.

I didn't mean to kill them, I was drunk.

 

[Gato_Solo]

No. A bit is just barely. Crossing the line by a small margin.

But if the line is crossed, it's excessive by definition. Once you go beyond a set value, anything over that, no matter how small, is excessive.

Example...

A man catches his significant other in bed with someone else, and stabs the the poacher 30, or 40, times. We can all agree that that is excessive. Hell...once the poacher is dead, any more incisions at all are excessive.

 

[Digital]

No. A bit is just barely. Crossing the line by a small margin.

Very much speaks for itself.

Words have meaning. Find the meaning & writing can be your friend.




I didn't mean to kill them, I was drunk.

Awww...I'm starting to get the feeling that you don't love me anymore.

 

[Gato_Solo]

Awww...I'm starting to get the feeling that you don't love me anymore.

It's not you...it's the air of hypocrisy you have in some of your posts...

 

[Digital]

It's not you...it's the air of hypocrisy you have in some of your posts...

I was being facetious towards his seemingly ostere post.

 

[Gonz]

You're just getting that I'm austere. You need to read more of my stuff.