cheering on the U.S

[tank girl]

whoaaah! I'm not even being sarcastic...!

US raises donation tenfold as death toll nears 150,000
By Andrew Buncombe in Washington and Marie Woolf

01 January 2005

Amid international outcry and widespread dismay, the United States said last night that it was increasing 10-fold its aid contribution to help survivors of the Asian tsunami disaster as the United Nations announced that the death toll is approaching 150,000.

In a statement, President George Bush said he was increasing the amount of aid to $350m (£182m). The move followed widespread criticism that its initial offer of $35m was measly and inadequate. The statement said: "Initial findings of American assessment teams on the ground indicate that the need for financial and other assistance will steadily increase in the days and weeks ahead ... I am committing $350m to fund the US portion of the relief effort."

Mr Bush is also dispatching his Secretary of State, Colin Powell, and his brother Jeb Bush, the Governor of Florida, to Asia to prepare a report.

The UN's emergency relief co-ordinator, Jan Egeland, said: "What we see is that the figures may be approaching 150,000 dead. We will never ever have the absolute definite figure because there are many fishermen and villages which have just gone and we have no chance of finding out how many they were."

General Powell met Kofi Annan, the UN secretary general, yesterday in New York to discuss plans to co-o

rdinate the aid effort with America leading a group of four "core" nations * Australia, India, Japan and the US * to work alongside the UN. It is not clear which organisation will take the lead and there have been allegations that Mr Bush is seeking to undermine UN efforts. Canada was added to the group yesterday.

The US decision makes it the largest donor. It had been condemned when the Bush administration said it would donate $35m. Mr Egeland said he believed the US's initial contribution was "stingy"....[more]

The Independent

 

[ResearchMonkey]

You dont tack so well either, this was posted in another thread you got nailed to the wall in.

Oh yeah, you left that thread after getting pummeled with truths.

 

[tank girl]

oh, is there something wrong with dedicating a thread to say "way to go" to the U.S now, I thought thats what you Americans were practically screaming for? and you use it as another excuse to attack me again ?

 

[tank girl]

You dont tack so well either, this was posted in another thread you got nailed to the wall in.

Oh yeah, you left that thread after getting pummeled with truths.

You're also wrong, last thread was about Bush pledging 35 million, hes now increasing that by ten fold... what does that tell you?

the United States said last night that it was increasing 10-fold its aid contribution to help survivors of the Asian tsunami disaster

Now that is most definately, the way to go...

*hmm, 350 million vs 35 million - you tell me which is the most stingy?

 

[ResearchMonkey]

Again you do not understand us 'Mericans.

We dont want to be praised for what we do. We just dont like being made to be the bad guy when we are trying to do our part.

Your wee intellect fails you yet again.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

You're also wrong, last thread was about Bush pledging 35 million, hes now increasing that by ten fold... what does that tell you?

Tells me your reading comprehension is fairly low, and that you have trouble staying focused.

http://www.otcentral.com/forum/showthread.php?p=384599&highlight=$350,000,000.00#post384599

 

[tank girl]

Despite what you think, this was an honest appreciation thread - but again you use it as an excuse to turn it against me...?

 

[ResearchMonkey]

Somehow, I just dont believe you're sincere.

Why you ask? Because you have shown that you care little about the truth in leiu of your predisposed opinion and political aganda of hate.

Over the last month, I have watched your quest to establish that you have some merrit as a self-proclamied intellectual ... dear, you have failed.

You're a kid that can't track a thought, a boastly under educated student that relies on being conscionable as oppossed to having any real practical knowledge of the world at large.

You lack the the basic skill that makes an intellectual, you are too emotional to be objective. You have to possess the abilty to address an issue with cognitive reasoning; the skill of taking a concept and widdling it down to conclusions with degrees of possibilities. You must be able to see past emotional limitations that govern your thinking. Emotional application comes after rational applications of the thought process resulting in a moral conclusion.

Whereas my conclusions come from reasoning that can be traced and documented with deduction of facts. You can only look at unsupported opinions that support your emotions.

My young Pedowan. Riding a falsehood 'til the wheels fall off then running away is not where greater wisdoms come from; it comes from the skill of being intelectually humble.




When a dozen people tell you that you are wrong on a pleathera of subjects, repeatedly, you would be wise to consider the possibilities.

 

[IDLEchild]

The word Pathetic comes to mind.

 

[BeardofPants]

The word Pathetic comes to mind.

Yep.

 

[tank girl]

Tells me your reading comprehension is fairly low, and that you have trouble staying focused.

http://www.otcentral.com/forum/showthread.php?p=384599&highlight=$350,000,000.00#post384599

Okay, I obviously didn't pay much attention to that remark - as i don't to most of your baseless remarks - because you made an idiotic comparison between N.Z and the U.S...did you not consider the, erm, difference in size, power, wealth, population...?!

The more you are able to give, the more you should give I say.

You should also learn to identify the fact that you are actually an Individual, Independent from the Government - and unless you can prove you somehow influenced Bushes decision to make a tightwad first-pledge then I think you better shut-up.

Bush was being tight-arsed and tardy about it, I say - he'd probably rather bomb Iraqis than save lives that are completely unrelated to any political agenda. I guess when he learned the extent and scale of the disaster and stared in the face of global criticism, he had no choice but to deliver...

what I'm saying with this statement, which you're so determined not to read into - is that its a very commendable and undoubtedly highly beneficial thing to have done regardless - even if it was at first held off with reluctance.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

I have been careful in limiting my greater points of issue since you haven’t been able to address them with any degree of competency.

I have therefore chosen to develop most of my points as rebuttals to things you have stated. I will try help you to connect the dots.

Okay, I obviously didn't pay much attention to that remark - as i don't to most of your baseless remarks - because you made an idiotic comparison between N.Z and the U.S...did you not consider the, erm, difference in size, power, wealth, population...?!

Let me show you where my "idiotic" remark comes from; It comes from a "idiotic" remark you made where value was placed on the population/financial donation ratio, it was used to make the point that the US is “stingey”.

The govt has contributed 5 million already, to 3 million heads


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So if you can make the issue of size/donation in attempt to make your shortsighted point, I shall use the same to respond in kind.

As for being powerful; as it happens we spend trillions of dollars to maintain an infrastructure that, by design, is able to respond to such disasters with the finest and quickest response available in the entire history of the world.

If you're going to add quantifiers to the equation. One of the more important factors in a disaster relief effort is time. Even thoo others have offered money and support; who is getting the help to the bellies and wounds of those folks that have been on their own for the last 5-6 days. It would the stingey folks that dispatched 30 billion dollars in assets to assist (lead) the effort.

The more you are able to give, the more you should give I say.

I'm glad you feel we should give more, because thats exaclty what is happening .... we ain't even done yet.

You should also learn to identify the fact that you are actually an Individual, Independent from the Government - and unless you can prove you somehow influenced Bushes decision to make a tightwad first-pledge then I think you better shut-up.

proof? ……………………………I elected him.


Independent of the government? ….. It, my gov't, serves me. I own it...“we the people” ‘n all that jazz…

I had no doubts that our initial contribution was but a drop in the bucket, whilst you were unable to see that comming.


…but unless you can prove you somehow the pastey-white UN guy that called us “stingey” influenced Bushes decision to increase our initial contribution …… then I think you should prolly hush your sweet little mush.

Using your own hypocritical wwerds against you yet again...

The UN guy that made the comment has now taken it back and apologised, poor guy - he had to, but at least they'e managed to squeeze out that extra relief from him because of it.

Bush was being tight-arsed and tardy about it, I say - he'd probably rather bomb Iraqis than save lives that are completely unrelated to any political agenda. I guess when he learned the extent and scale of the disaster and stared in the face of global criticism, he had no choice but to deliver...

what I'm saying with this statement, which you're so determined not to read into - is that its a very commendable and undoubtedly highly beneficial thing to have done regardless - even if it was at first held off with reluctance.

Oh god, you can’t even understand your own blathering-tangental drool.

surely you gest, he has the choice of what-ever he sees as being appropriate.

What ever does our bombing of Iraq have to with this issue? Nothing, it’s a matter of you showing your under-informed political ideologies.

In fact, as an issue you posted prior. We are spending billions of dollars in humanitarian missons in Iraq. We are doing thing there now that you have zero knowledge about simply because you are too ignorant to look for truth on your own. You only swallow the hate fed to you, you do not seek truth.


As another fact; when Georgie boy did finally speak, it was after he had spent several days of taking action, deploying assets doing his job to get the ball rolling before he ran to press. It called acting upon priorities ……………hummmm go “talk” or “take action”, he chose to act first, then talk about it.


I'm sure that I have taken every werd of your "out of context". Nonetheless, they are you werds and you are responsible for the ones you put together. (I know, responsibility, its difficult at first but you will get used to it)


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TG, you truly are loved by many of us, we see you an oppertunity to shed light upon a darkend world. I only hope the darkside doesn't comsume that cynical heart of yours.

 

[ResearchMonkey]

Q: If you're in a land where the toilets flush backwards, what does it sound like when you paint yourself into a corner.


A: Well you could become intellectually honest for moment or the more common other sound.