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Gato_Solo said:
Wait a second...Where are the magazines? This must be some kind of joke. Nobody brandishes an automatic rifle in a war zone with no ammunition. Is this a photoshop pic? :confuse3:

It'd be nice if the source of the pic was posted.
 
Its obviously a staged photo. There is only one angry woman and a bunch of people who look like they don't know whats going on....
 
I also fail to notice any children carrying wepons. Just a few women. Anybody see any children with weapons (to include knives)? Obviously somebody has too much time on their hands.
 
Gato, don't come in here with your balanced & sensible article & think you've created OTC peace. Jeez :D
 
Gato_Solo said:
Wait a second...Where are the magazines? This must be some kind of joke. Nobody brandishes an automatic rifle in a war zone with no ammunition. Is this a photoshop pic? :confuse3:

I'm looking at that photo and I can clearly see the mag on the rifle in the forefront. See the squarish thingy that the strap has to go around? That would be the mag.
 
Professur said:
Gato_Solo said:
Wait a second...Where are the magazines? This must be some kind of joke. Nobody brandishes an automatic rifle in a war zone with no ammunition. Is this a photoshop pic? :confuse3:

I'm looking at that photo and I can clearly see the mag on the rifle in the forefront. See the squarish thingy that the strap has to go around? That would be the mag.

Looks like the pistol-grip to me, Prof. Look at the AK on the right, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

added afterwards

I see the mag now, prof. :blush: But it's the only magazine present. ;) So that makes it "Shoot the first woman and leave the rest alone."
 
What are you looking at Prof? The sling is draped on the trigger guard. Those rifles would have unmistakable banana clips if they were loaded.
 
Well, I see the slide lever, so it's not a bolt action. But I think I saw this one before. There's a cover under her hand. The internal mag takes 5 rounds. The cover can be removed to take an external mag, but you can use it without.

I'll look it up tomorrow when I've more time.
 
back to topic :(

Garvin said some of the Iraqi fighters were using women as shields and had given guns to children.

"Unfortunately some of the children have been firing at our Marines and our Marines have been forced to defend themselves," he said.

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Iraq has sunk to a new low in unconventional warfare, with regime forces threatening children and having them take up guns on the battlefield, according to U.S. officials and a reporter embedded with coalition troops.

Coalition leaders report Iraqi paramilitary forces are going into homes and threatening whole families with death if they don't join the battle.

"Our field commanders report that in the vicinity of Najaf ... Iraqi regime forces are seizing children from their homes and telling their families that the males must fight for the regime or they will all face execution," Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks said this morning.


At a press briefing from Central Command headquarters in Doha, Qatar, Brooks told reporters the development represents but one example of the regime's growing and "pronounced" disregard for the Geneva Convention, which governs the rules of engagement.

"Once again, we see the regime's terrorist tactics, where they bring the innocent onto the battlefield as they try to do anything to stay in power," said Jim Wilkinson, spokesman for commander Gen. Tommy Franks.

There is evidence the families are choosing battle over execution for their boys.

WTVD-TV reporter Keith Garvin who is traveling with Marines from Camp Lejeune reports children taking part in a two-hour battle between the Marines and Iraqi troops that took place last night behind a Marine camp at An Nasiriyah.

"Unfortunately, some of the children have been firing at our Marines and our Marines have been forced to defend themselves," he said.

Hours before, civilians living behind the camp were seen setting up bunkers and military officials "said they had heard or felt that something bad was going to happen," Garvin reported.

He said some of the Iraqi fighters were using women as shields and had given guns to children.

Intelligence reports indicated 2,000 Iraqi troops advanced on the camp in a skirmish which involved the firing of missiles and artillery, and ultimately was augmented with aerial bombing.

Garvin said 25 Marines were wounded in the fight, though none of the injuries appeared to be life-threatening.
 
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