Committee: Blair didn't intentionally mislead lawmakers on Iraq

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Blair cleared of deception on Iraq

By The Associated Press

July 8, 2003 LONDON - Prime Minister Tony Blair's government mishandled intelligence material on Iraqi weapons, a parliamentary committee reported Monday, but said it found no evidence Blair or his ministers deliberately misled lawmakers.

The committee also cleared Blair's communications chief of accusations he redrafted an intelligence dossier against the wishes of intelligence agencies to include unreliable information.

The allegations, arising from a British Broadcasting Corp. report, have soured relations between the broadcaster and the government, which on Monday repeated its demand for an apology.

But the critical parliamentary report heaped further pressure on the government to find tangible evidence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction - and said that without such proof, the accuracy of British intelligence dossiers would remain in doubt.

http://www.gomemphis.com/mca/america_at_war/article/0,1426,MCA_945_2094715,00.html
 
Who was the committee comprised of, impartial third party ,opposition party members or Blair appointees?
 
it's no where near as clear cut as that - the parliamentary commitee is a cross-party commitee that investigates issues of concern. the government has agreed to this but resisted claims for an independent and more far reaching judicial review.

the wording is quite specific - tony blair has been cleared of deliberately misleading parliamnet but there have been serious conclusions on the way the uk government put together and delivered its dossiers on iraq. criticism of him appears to be in his 'misinterpreting' of the dossier to parliament.

aliaster campbell, blair's chief communications officer, was indeed cleared of falsifying intelligence but the accusation that he manipulated evidence was only cleared after the chairman cast his vote on a split commitee.

the commitee was quite damaging in its deliberation that the government should not have used some information in its dossier, notably the apparently unfounded accusation that iraq had capability to use wmd's in 45mins.
 
I've never believed that Blair would deliberately mislead us, only that he and the rest of the government were misinformed by the so-called experts and read more into the situation than was there.

At heart I believe he is genuine, but he's dealing with a bureaucracy that has been in place for many years and is very entrenched in it's attitudes and practices and desperately needs updating.

The same can be said for the rest of our public "services". :(
 
A.B.Normal said:
Who was the committee comprised of, impartial third party ,opposition party members or Blair appointees?
It was composed of Labour, Conservative and Liberal Democrat MP's
 
i'd love to believe that blair is as sincere as his speeches but i can't forget the guy is a politician with some of the most devilish political spin merchants around. i am sure he believes in his convictions and the rightness of them but i can easily believe him making sure the dossiers fitted the projections he wanted to show.

current sources from whitehall aren't making this go away, or look any better at all:

iraq weapons 'likely not found'
 
The ABC TV News was saying similar stuff re Bush today. Evidently he didn't actually lie, he was misled by the intelligence community. Can you say "no WMDs?" Oh yeah, the intelligence community may have also "overstated" Saddam's drive to acquire nuclear weapons.
 
tricky bit for blair is that one of the dossiers wasn't created by the intelligence community, it was drafted by one of his policy units headed by his spin-in-cheif alaister campbell. of course he presented the thing like it was a full intel assessment.
 
Answer me this. If saddam no longer possesed NBCs, why didn't he show the UN inspectors proof of their demise? That would have been enough to end all of this. There would have been no war. He's still be in power, murdering & assaulting his citizenery at his pleasure. Doesn't make sense does it?


Also, answer this. Assuming, just for the sake of argument, that the only thing left in his arsenal was 200 litres of anthrax. Given the CIA World fact book that Iraq is
total: 437,072 sq km
and California is
163,707 square miles
(you do the math) and he had his minnions bury them in half full 2-litre Pepsi bottles throughout his country, how long would it take you to find just one?
 
which is why theyre still looking gonz. as for the first statement, I cant answer that since i dont know what would constitute leit proof. photos? they can be altered. paperwork? shit man just type whatever the hell you want up and turn it in. what the hell proof do you want? dont take that as a personal attack just an answer tho I know its not the answer you want its what I got.
 
Key phrase "MAY HAVE".

If I find he intentionally lied, then I'll have the same outright hated as I have for Clinton. Right now I'm not sure, either way. I do support the action, regardless.
 
Answer me this, Gonz...Why didn't you require the same degree of proof from Bush when he made his claims?

And why do we need to give Bush time when he wasn't willing to do the same for the inspectors?

Damn it. Lives were lost because of his fucking lies and he should pay.
 
Because there WAS proof that saddam had some variations of NBCs. That was NEVER a question.

Time for inspectors??? Jesus H Christ Squiggy, they had 12 fucking years!
 
Gonz said:
Time for inspectors??? Jesus H Christ Squiggy, they had 12 fucking years!

I don't understand why people that know that's not true insist on saying that. It just forces a correction to come out. It's not as if it's going to slip through unchallenged.
 
Gonz said:
Key phrase "MAY HAVE".

If I find he intentionally lied, then I'll have the same outright hated as I have for Clinton. Right now I'm not sure, either way. I do support the action, regardless.

His comments followed an admission by the White House National Security Council that President George W. Bush's claim Iraq tried to buy uranium from Africa was based on forged documents.

Thats from your own post in the other thread.

Bush's claims far exceeded ANYTHING that has or will be found and his support staff are running for the hills now because they know they were part of this. Colin "I'll be your yes man" Powell has been hung out to dry with the lies he was forced to present to the UN and STILL you defend this ass and try to change the subject back to Clinton getting a blowjob or whatever it is you don't like about him. Find me somewhere that Bush ever answered an unscripted question with any intelligence so I figure out what the fuck you see in this guy that I don't.
 
the Gulf War ended on Feb 28, 1991. That's 12 years. The inspections were halted several times due to interference & other assorted reasons but it was 12 years.
 
Squiggy said:
Find me somewhere that Bush ever answered an unscripted question with any intelligence so I figure out what the fuck you see in this guy that I don't.

I support the office, not the man. I still think there was something to Clinton's bombing of an "aspirin factory". 25 years from now, we'll see. I see a group of people that have far & away more information than I could even hope. Is it possible this whole thing was a "daddy's revenge". Sure. Not likely but possible. If Dubya the moron is so absolutely wrong then why have 3 consecutive presidents gone after him? There is far more to this story than meets the eye.
 
Gonz said:
I support the office, not the man. I still think there was something to Clinton's bombing of an "aspirin factory". 25 years from now, we'll see. I see a group of people that have far & away more information than I could even hope. Is it possible this whole thing was a "daddy's revenge". Sure. Not likely but possible. If Dubya the moron is so absolutely wrong then why have 3 consecutive presidents gone after him? There is far more to this story than meets the eye.

Thats my fucking point. They had the information that the information was bogus. And HE decided to present it to America as indisputable truth. Hes a fucking liar and he got people killed because of it...Those aren't cum stains on the American soldiers that died. They're bullet holes.
 
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