Even Muslims believe Obama is a Muslim
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MrBishop
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He's not a Muslim, but even if he were, that should not be a problem.
He may well be considered an apostate Muslim by some...but that doesn't help him any. If he 'gave up Islam' and became a Christian, then he certainly wouldn't get the trust of other Muslims.
He's the President. Is it really a surprise to anyone that all types of people would want to gain pull by claiming that he is one of them *whoever 'them' is)?
He may well be considered an apostate Muslim by some...but that doesn't help him any. If he 'gave up Islam' and became a Christian, then he certainly wouldn't get the trust of other Muslims.
He's the President. Is it really a surprise to anyone that all types of people would want to gain pull by claiming that he is one of them *whoever 'them' is)?
2minkey
bootlicker
oh, okay, i thought you had just posted this as clever spike bait like you suggested in another post, but now i see that you're actually trying to pursue these allegations of obama being muslim.
i was, for a time, raised catholic. i am not catholic. that stopped at around the age when they start teaching you about the wafer. now, i am a secular humanist, in some ways because i grew up in an area with a very strong humanistic influence, also because of my academic training, and certainly due to some other influences, too. golly, i turned out a little different than what was intended huh? or maybe not.
obama grew up partially in indonesia, and partially here. he spent plenty of time in an academic environment not all that unlike mine. he declares that he became a christian. he also has some obviously humanist assumptions at work. i'm sure he has some respect for islam, or at least it doesn't feel as foreign or exotic to him as it may to you, but... so the fuck what? his story about what he is is perfectly plausible. he obviously was not raised in his early youth in a "hardcore" islamic way because it really didn't stick, just like catholicism didn't stick for me.
not all of us are born followers, jim. some of us get beyond what daddy said when we was knee high to a deli pickle.
all this obama is a muslim shit is a big stupid circus, and it really undermines any legitimate point you might have abut the economy or other truly relevant issues. enjoy your witch hunt.
catocom
Well-Known Member
Muslim, or no, Obama has 'the spirit of antichrist'.
What does that mean?...
He speaks heresy in that he says 'there are many ways to get to heaven'.
Speaking heresy is 'the spirit of antichrist'.
1 John 4
Saying there are many ways to get to heaven is contrary to Jesus' teaching, and is denying him.
http://kingjbible.com/john/14.htm
What does that mean?...
He speaks heresy in that he says 'there are many ways to get to heaven'.
Speaking heresy is 'the spirit of antichrist'.
1 John 4
Saying there are many ways to get to heaven is contrary to Jesus' teaching, and is denying him.
John 14:6
http://kingjbible.com/john/14.htm
2minkey
bootlicker
no, you're interpreting what it says and passing judgment.
there are many ways to get to heaven? really? like, what does that even mean? aren't there a bunch of different manifestations of faith or (even more so) works that could gain favor with the tooth fairy, er, god?
saying obama is of the antichrist based on this weak string you cobbled together? man, that don't sound very christian to me. it's obvious. you want to judge him. you want him to be bad. i wonder why.
there are many ways to get to heaven? really? like, what does that even mean? aren't there a bunch of different manifestations of faith or (even more so) works that could gain favor with the tooth fairy, er, god?
saying obama is of the antichrist based on this weak string you cobbled together? man, that don't sound very christian to me. it's obvious. you want to judge him. you want him to be bad. i wonder why.
catocom
Well-Known Member
I didn't say he was "the" antichrist.
What you think it 'sounds like' makes no difference to me.
I just quoted what the Bible says. There's only one way to get to Heaven.
Anyone that teaches different....
2minkey
bootlicker
i didn't say you said he was the antichrist either. you said something like he had the spirit of the anitchrist, which i more or less repeated - his is "of" the antichrist.
if you don;t understand how you are interpreting, we're done here. you're applying the word to your purpose in an specific way. faith? works? grace? sounds to me like there's a lot of heretics out there. you buy the gasoline, i'll get the wood.
if you don;t understand how you are interpreting, we're done here. you're applying the word to your purpose in an specific way. faith? works? grace? sounds to me like there's a lot of heretics out there. you buy the gasoline, i'll get the wood.
catocom
Well-Known Member
read the passage man.
A lot of people have "the spirit of antichrist" just like a lot of people have "the Holy Spirit".
That doesn't imply he's got anything to do with "The Beast".
I'd give you a lesson, but you apparently aren't interested in any of that,
just denigrating, and spinning.
A lot of people have "the spirit of antichrist" just like a lot of people have "the Holy Spirit".
That doesn't imply he's got anything to do with "The Beast".
I'd give you a lesson, but you apparently aren't interested in any of that,
just denigrating, and spinning.
Yet every time he's actually seen participating in somethign religious, it's Islamic, not Christian.
spike
New Member
There are many ways to get to heaven if you believe in that. You can be a preacher, you could work at a charity, you could do good stuff in your day to day life.
Ignoring Jesus' teachings and being a hate filled fear monger isn't going to do it though. That would mean you had the spirit of the anti-christ.
Ignoring Jesus' teachings and being a hate filled fear monger isn't going to do it though. That would mean you had the spirit of the anti-christ.