LastLegionary said:
Public health care in general does not work because:
+ People can consult a doctor whenever they want to, because they don't pay. They go see the doctor for the teeniest of pains, aches, and coughs. This drives costs up.
very true, educate people as to when they should see the doctor, especailly for colds where the doctor can do nothing to help.
sometimes seeing the doctor for the tiny ache or pain can save lives, though, especially with diseases like meningitis that act fast and look like a cold.
+ Making private hospitals illegal discourages improvement. Bring in the competition and you will see the quality of service will go up, and the costs will go down.
i don't know a country where this is done. its not done here, or in frnace or germany to my knowledge. also, just because public health care is there does not automatically mean that private is banned, therefore irrelevant.
competition is good, but could possibly encourage business practices that may not be compatible with patient care.
+ I do not want to pay for the health care of some smug I don't know. I will pay for my own and for my families. Its called health insurance, just like you buy car insurance. If you can't afford health insurance, tough. There can be charities where you can go to that will help you out, but I won't. Sorry, but I have better things to spend my money on. It isn't the government's job to redistribute the wealth.
is that the same for education? are you willing to pay for someone elses education or leave us all to get on with it? some see the right to quality health for all can be as a basic part of the governments provsision, as education and defence are.
some can't afford cars, therefore don't need insurance, but i'm stuck with my body.
+ If I have the money and offer to pay extras, I want to jump the line up to a certain point (where it is life/death situations). Of course, with private hospitals there ain't likely to be a long line. I heard in Britain there are lines of up to 3+ years for some operations.
and here you can do just that, go private if you want [our private healthcare is sooo cheap btw
] i put down most of our waiting lists to bad management and lack of investment in the past.
+ I do, however, support a little public health care. People that are being trained and don't hold qualifications yet must complete years of physical training. These are done under the supervision of a fully trained and certified doctor. Since these are in some cases government regulated, you could let the government fund these, and people without health care can go to these types of hospitals where they know they will be operated on by untrained people (under the supervision of a fully trained person though). Hm, this is just an idea, but I haven't really thought that much about it.
poverty = substandard healthcare. i don't see why this need be the case.
Now, people, please tell me the wonderful advantages of state run health care. And please don't tell me that "everyone" gets health care for free, because that is a disadvantage. Remember the Simpsons episode? Homer step in front of a truck because of "free health care"? Same principle.
we do that all the time here, diving under buses, getting ill just to use those taxes. i guess you'd have to be a real selfish cynic to do
that.
